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Forums - Sales Discussion - January 2015 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates up!

binary solo on 12 February 2015
BHR-3 said:
whats going on with the SW how the hell is XB1 selling more? less HW sold and total HW is less than PS4

congrats on ps4 win MS needs to be 100 dollars less to sell on par or more than even though both consoles share the same mulitplats and imo both dont really have many exclusives on them yet so whats the deciding factor? online aint free on PSN, wonder how much ps4 will be outselling in once exclusive SW starts rolling in

Total SW is more than just the top 10, and MS had more exclusives with meaningful sales than PS4 does, right now. The top selling PS4bone exclusive for the time being is MCC, followed by TLOUR. MS also has the 2 Forzas still charting, while PS4 pretty much only has inFamous. Not sure where Sunset Overdrive is sitting right now, but it's probably somewhat ahead of all the remaining PS4 exclusives.



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benji232 on 12 February 2015
Kerotan said:
benji232 said:

I wouldn't call 15-20k overtracked "Heavily" overtracked. But yea, I'd say that this is a disapointing performance from the U.


It's on track to be overtracked by about 30k. That's 50% off. Big big overtracking. 

I ment in the bigger picture of things. 20-30k overtracked isn't that big of a deal. Obviously, a console selling so low will have higher percentages of overtracking/undertracking because the numbers are so low to begin with. Take xbox one (I know, it's an extreme) in Japan for example, some times, Famitsu or MC will have it at around 1k while the other one at around 200. Would you be telling me that since there's a 400% difference between both trackers that both are terrible at tracking console sales?

Edit: I'm not trying to argue you for the sake of arguing, I just think that percentages of over and undertracking shouldn't be taken so seriously when the console is selling so low to begin with. 25k is nothing in the grand scheme of things. That's roughly 6k less per week.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

Burek on 12 February 2015
binary solo said:

What you said.

Though I seriously doubt the suggestion that lead to T_f's comment. I don't see digital sales being so different as to cause that big of an effect on physical sales. Would be interesting to get a break down from a few 3rd parties regarding digital market share between PS4 and Xb one. I doub't we'll ever get it. I doubt we'll ever get overall console digital sales, as all the info I've seen so far incorporates PC, and doesn't give a game by game split. And often times the "digital" sales data includes subscriptions and DLC so you can;t even get an accurate physical/digital spilt at a macro level.

Well, my original comment was just a speculation, trying to give one possible angle on the software discrepancy. I don't claim it to be a fact.

What leads me to speculate that way is a report this Christmas that XOne was purchased more as a gift, while PS4 was bought more as a personal purchase. More XOne's as gifts leads me to believe more XOne users (compared to PS4) are children (persons under 18), who don't have credit cards usually required to make a digital purchase. Thus skewing digital sales more to the PS4 side. 

Just a theory.



globalisateur on 12 February 2015
BHR-3 said:
whats going on with the SW how the hell is XB1 selling more? 

Well, it's not! Here is the Microsoft PR excerpt:

more game sales per console than any other platform

They only talked about tie ratio win, we can easily assume PS4 did in fact sell more software overall during january.

Because if Microsoft had sold more SW overall they certainly would have told us...



Qermity on 12 February 2015

I take it that 3DS is down because the New 3DS is coming in Feb.

I also expect the 360 and PS3 to be down also.

Nice on the Wii U boost



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DonFerrari on 12 February 2015
Dark_Feanor said:
Hardware drop was expected but still worrisome.

Those recordbreaking launches didn´t lived up to the chalenger of mobile gaming.


HW revenue dropped... but considering X1 sold for 100-150 less for the month it could mean that the HW drop wasn't big... X1 up, WiiU up, PS3 and X360 probably down... the rest we will see soon.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

GribbleGrunger on 12 February 2015
true_fan said:

Wow 600k less hardware and still outselling the competition in terms of software, good to see XBOX fans take pride in those attach rates.

Oh, so 600k is a 'significant' difference now ...



 

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SWORDF1SH on 12 February 2015
globalisateur said:
BHR-3 said:
whats going on with the SW how the hell is XB1 selling more? 

Well, it's not! Here is the Microsoft PR excerpt:

more game sales per console than any other platform

They only talked about tie ratio win, we can easily assume PS4 did in fact sell more software overall during january.

Because if Microsoft had sold more SW overall they certainly would have told us...

Actually if you look at the NPD software list, on a few of the multiplat games, it sold more due to it being listed first in the brackets next to each game.



DonFerrari on 12 February 2015
binary solo said:
BHR-3 said:
whats going on with the SW how the hell is XB1 selling more? less HW sold and total HW is less than PS4

congrats on ps4 win MS needs to be 100 dollars less to sell on par or more than even though both consoles share the same mulitplats and imo both dont really have many exclusives on them yet so whats the deciding factor? online aint free on PSN, wonder how much ps4 will be outselling in once exclusive SW starts rolling in

Total SW is more than just the top 10, and MS had more exclusives with meaningful sales than PS4 does, right now. The top selling PS4bone exclusive for the time being is MCC, followed by TLOUR. MS also has the 2 Forzas still charting, while PS4 pretty much only has inFamous. Not sure where Sunset Overdrive is sitting right now, but it's probably somewhat ahead of all the remaining PS4 exclusives.


They were talking about attach ratio for the month... and considering the bundles it is quite possible they just had best attach ratio because of it, not that they really sold more SW.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ryng on 12 February 2015

Please Ninty, don't released the 3DS number's tomorrow as the usual. -_-

I'm curius about the pre-launch of N3DS