Just going by title of the thread...that wouldn't even be a fair trade

Sony doesn't even like to support their own handheld. Why would they want to support someone elses lol

Also Sony wouldnt need Nintendo for their console atm due to strong third party support they all ready have

Look at the companies current states.  The value of nintendo has declined a lot whereas sony have had a massive rebound.  Ps4 is going to be a gold mine for the next 8 years whereas nintendo face massive losses if they don't stop the big decline with their next consoles. 

so let me understand something... are you trying to tell say that if the PS4 only manages 5M console sales in Japan then all the major Japanese games will go to mobile? And this is because those major games from nap publishers only sell well in Japan right? 

Sony is still a much bigger mess than Nintendo if you look at the whole companies.
Nintendo isn't facing massive losses.

Read my post again.  I said if the big decline continues they are in big trouble because they're creeking as it is. 

Are sure about that? Seems like the line keeps getting drawn and smartphones continue to eat audience regardless. 

The 3DS started from "well it's gonna sell 150 million, Nintendo's got this". 

That then became "well, maybe 120 million, the launch was slow".

That then became "well ok, they get to 100 million, even the GBA would've hit 100 million with a full 5+ years"

Then that became "well 85+ million for sure, no way it doesn't outsell the PSP, Pokemon will cause sales to skyrocket!"

And now we're down to "maybe they can hit 75 million if this 3DS revision takes off". 

Maybe there is a bottom and this just magically ceases to be a problem for Nintendo next-generation, but its very possible that mobile gaming is a cancer that isn't going to stop until it carves the handheld business into something unsustainable. 

The problem is these smart devices are getting kids to think of portable gaming as something that should be free or $1 at most. You have a whole generation of kids thinking that's how things should be. That's a problem. 

Between the 3DS and Vita, there's going to be about 140-150 million fewer handhelds sold this cycle. Whereas smart phone sales and adoption is accelerating. If it chips away another say 30 million even next cycle, Nintendo is getting into a danger zone.

To tell the truth, I'd kind of welcome that.

I am a superfan of both, and i love the idea *__________________________*

If it comes to the handheld business been unsustainable then it's in Nintendo's best interests to start selling hardware at a profit. The red ocean route might not be a bad idea come to think of it since Nintendo practically has a monopoly on dedicated gaming handhelds. Nintendo should do what Apple does and that's depending on their loyal customer base much like how Sony went through the bad times with the PS3 ... 

That line of thought really might be dangerous when it comes to gaming but that only shows that they value gaming very little since so pandering to them was a lost cause from the start ...

They definitely might be getting into the danger zone with a further decline like that but it doesn't have be that way as long as they sell their hardware at a profit and there will always be an audience for dedicated gaming handhelds since control schemes are the biggest differentiator ...

He reminds me of a young Bobby kotick, someone who sees one weak end and one strong end of something and must merge them together to create a monopoly for maximum profits, and profit is the only thing driving any decision with Bobby and it's mostly what Soundwave is driving home with every "nintendo is weak must go mobile/third party" or anyone he thinks is weak, he also doesn't seem to see how problematic monopolies can be for the whole world, monopolies are never a good thing.