And if all they had done was slap together bones you would have a point. But you don't know that that is what they did at all. You simply believe it because it is conveniant to your position. Or are you now claiming to have personally taken part in some sort of in-depth review of this case and have personally found factual reasoning for your conclusion? Can you even cite someone who has?

 It would seem fair that if I cite someone who has found and presented evidence to the scientific community for this case, that you could find someone who has presented evidence against it if you wish to dismiss its validity.  Unless you just wish to challenge science as a whole?

@ rocketpig
"most of the time resulting in the animal dying at birth or shortly thereafter because it can't compete with the rest of its kind"

Just like the poor frog baby and snake baby from AOA thread the other day. Either they were random defects that occurs from time to time, or god is an a$$hole.

Sarcasm FTW.

I have no problem with people believing in Creationism, it's their right to believe whatever they like.

What I want Creationists to admit is that their entire argument is based on faith and faith alone. Evolution only piles more and more evidence in its corner as research into genetics improves. But, most importantly, it's based on the solid foundation of science where nothing is sacred and contrary information is not only welcomed, but often ends up changing the scientific community. Science is the antithesis to faith and one is the quest for knowledge while the other constrains it.

I've also never seen a fusion reaction in the Sun but I don't see many people arguing whether it's happening or not.

"Whats the worst that can happen anyway? If I die, and I am wrong, I die like everyone else. Yet if I am right, I will go to heaven while the darwinist will go to hell. The irony is suffocating."

So just because they have diffreent beliefs than you they get to perpetually suffer for all of eternity while you get paradise. Wait, what if they still managed to live more rightous lives than you despite their beliefs? Do they still go to hell?

Doesn't sound like a god I would want to believe in at all. In fact sounds like a tyrant that needs to be deposed.

What happened to the all-knowing, all-loving, all-forgiving christian god that christians are supposed to believe in? How did he get replaced by the spiteful tyrant king of the old-testament?

 You mean frogbaby isn't proof of intelligent design?

why is it that christians always assume their beliefs are the right ones? what if you're wrong and the only real god is allah, or krisha, or even quetzalcoatl... then you didn't just not believe in a god you believed in the wrong god... you better hope the real god isn't the jealous type ;)

What we know as fact is what we have seen to be true. Believe in God or not, that is an argument written off because the multiple other possibilities mixed with a mass of population who have not experienced any form of God led the accepted trend against it. However, if you cannot see evolution because it does take a long time, or rather a rare occurence over a short time, to show true, then isn't that just as not seeing God? Claiming Evolution in its extreme form as anything more than a theory is just as ignorant a stance. With as much as we have yet to learn, is there not any possibilities that could have existed in our past, unobserved and unrealized, that could lay way to much that we see used today in support of evolution, though falsely so?

he is insane about this. he thinks that random chance led to all things as they are. he is so wrong. it is guided chance. if life can spring up once, it can probably spring up multiple times and i would bet that we are not evolved from the first life on this planet. the first life probably died almost immediately.

not only that, but he uses reverse chance. take a deck of cards and deal all of tehm out and record the order. Then shuffle and repeat. Take a hundred years to try and get those first 52 cards again. u will fail. how many times did u get it? once, the first time. the chances of you getting it again border on impossible, yet cards are not impossible. using the same logic, the first deal of cards shouldnt exist.

I can believe whatever I want! I believe that you're stupid and what you believe is stupid and you should die! Whoa whoa, don't use science to prove me wrong. Science needs facts, and I only need faith. You can't prove faith wrong, so I'm right. Erego, die in a fire.

That's directed at everybody on both sides. Really, go die. I'm right. But believe whatever you want.