IFireflyl said: generic-user-1 said: IFireflyl said: generic-user-1 said: than the school did right? i mean, we cant proof that there is no one ring and that the kid doesnt hide it. the ring is tricky... It is a fact that The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings is fiction. The author didn't create it saying it was real. The author created these works as fiction. Religious documents are a different matter. i didnt read the part of the bible that says: dis is real and happend for real bro... Then you didn't read the Bible. I'm not solely talking about the Bible. I am talking about any religious documentation. Either way, you're derailing the thread for no reason now.

no im not, im talking about the doublestandards behind the schools decision. there is no difference between the lord of the ring and the bible (okay, lotr is better written) both is fiction, and if you punish children for believing in one fiction and reward them for believing in the other your name sould be hypocrite

generic-user-1 said: IFireflyl said: Then you didn't read the Bible. I'm not solely talking about the Bible. I am talking about any religious documentation. Either way, you're derailing the thread for no reason now. no im not, im talking about the doublestandards behind the schools decision. there is no difference between the lord of the ring and the bible (okay, lotr is better written) both is fiction, and if you punish children for believing in one fiction and reward them for believing in the other your name sould be hypocrite

I think you need to be educated on what closed-minded means. Prove to me how the world came about and you can argue your point all you want. But you can't prove it, because the millions/billions/trillions of people that are much smarter than you haven't been able to prove it. J.R.R. Tolkein wrote The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings as fiction. The authors of the Bible and other religious documents wrote them as non-fiction. That is the difference. Good day sir.

IFireflyl said: generic-user-1 said: IFireflyl said: Then you didn't read the Bible. I'm not solely talking about the Bible. I am talking about any religious documentation. Either way, you're derailing the thread for no reason now. no im not, im talking about the doublestandards behind the schools decision. there is no difference between the lord of the ring and the bible (okay, lotr is better written) both is fiction, and if you punish children for believing in one fiction and reward them for believing in the other your name sould be hypocrite I think you need to be educated on what closed-minded means. Prove to me how the world came about and you can argue your point all you want. But you can't prove it, because the millions/billions/trillions of people that are much smarter than you haven't been able to prove it. J.R.R. Tolkein wrote The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings as fiction. The authors of the Bible and other religious documents wrote them as non-fiction. That is the difference. Good day sir.

THe lotr universe has a much better genesis story than the bible... and im not sure that Tolkien ever said that LOTR isnt real, the same way nobody ever said star wars isnt real, its just another place another time. we can trust the Lotr more than the bible, why? because we dont realy now if tolkiens story is wrong or not. on the other hand, we now that the story the bible tells us is wrong, the world is not 6k years old and that evolution is a fact. and go to school kid, we know how the world and life came to beeing and children know it too. some little rocks in space bumped into each other and formed a bigger rock and bumped into other rocks and formed a bigger rock, etc, thats not hard to understand and its proved for decades...

generic-user-1 said: THe lotr universe has a much better genesis story than the bible... and im not sure that Tolkien ever said that LOTR isnt real, the same way nobody ever said star wars isnt real, its just another place another time. we can trust the Lotr more than the bible, why? because we dont realy now if tolkiens story is wrong or not. on the other hand, we now that the story the bible tells us is wrong, the world is not 6k years old and that evolution is a fact. and go to school kid, we know how the world and life came to beeing and children know it too. some little rocks in space bumped into each other and formed a bigger rock and bumped into other rocks and formed a bigger rock, etc, thats not hard to understand and its proved for decades...

I see now that you're not closed-minded, but merely uneducated. None of what I bolded for you is true. You need to figure out the difference between fact and theory. There is no point arguing with someone who is uneducated in the subject matter.

IFireflyl said: generic-user-1 said: THe lotr universe has a much better genesis story than the bible... and im not sure that Tolkien ever said that LOTR isnt real, the same way nobody ever said star wars isnt real, its just another place another time. we can trust the Lotr more than the bible, why? because we dont realy now if tolkiens story is wrong or not. on the other hand, we now that the story the bible tells us is wrong, the world is not 6k years old and that evolution is a fact. and go to school kid, we know how the world and life came to beeing and children know it too. some little rocks in space bumped into each other and formed a bigger rock and bumped into other rocks and formed a bigger rock, etc, thats not hard to understand and its proved for decades... I see now that you're not closed-minded, but merely uneducated. None of what I bolded for you is true. You need to figure out the difference between fact and theory. There is no point arguing with someone who is uneducated in the subject matter.

sure, evolution is a theorie, but its so well proven that we can take it as fact, sames goes for the theorie behind the birth of the earth... (a fakt is just a well provn theorie, nothing more.) i will now fly away because gravity is just a theorie too, and i dont trust those sciene people...

generic-user-1 said: sure, evolution is a theorie, but its so well proven that we can take it as fact, sames goes for the theorie behind the birth of the earth... i will now fly away because gravity is just a theorie too, and i dont trust those sciene people...

How is evolution "so well proven"? It isn't. Evolution between kinds is proven. Evolution between species (macroevolution) has never been observed, and has never been proven.

Who doesn't believe in magic, right?

IFireflyl said: generic-user-1 said: sure, evolution is a theorie, but its so well proven that we can take it as fact, sames goes for the theorie behind the birth of the earth... i will now fly away because gravity is just a theorie too, and i dont trust those sciene people... How is evolution "so well proven"? It isn't. Evolution between kinds is proven. Evolution between species (macroevolution) has never been observed, and has never been proven.

there is no such thing as macroevolution... its all evolution between kind for a looong time. we can observe it now, go to the zoo and look at a polar bear and a grizzly bear, those are maybe one species, but maybe not. its all about how to define species.

generic-user-1 said: IFireflyl said: generic-user-1 said: sure, evolution is a theorie, but its so well proven that we can take it as fact, sames goes for the theorie behind the birth of the earth... i will now fly away because gravity is just a theorie too, and i dont trust those sciene people... How is evolution "so well proven"? It isn't. Evolution between kinds is proven. Evolution between species (macroevolution) has never been observed, and has never been proven. there is no such thing as macroevolution... its all evolution between kind for a looong time. we can observe it now, go to the zoo and look at a polar bear and a grizzly bear, those are maybe one species, but maybe not. its all about how to define species.

Lololololol! If you don't think that polar bears and grizzly bears are the same species then you don't believe in science anyway. Lmfao.

Same for not believing in macroevolution. Here you go:

Berkeley Evolution

Berkeley Macroevolution

You've already proven that you don't know any more about evolution than they teach in high school.

I made a post on an article saying how stupid western society is, and I thought: "Maybe I was being too harsh." but I feel as though this justifies my point.

As a Texas native (no longer live there) I apologize for the stupidity seen in this article v.v XD