Based on reality and logic? AMD's statements, known sony numbers, known retailer leaks on GAF from vetted users.... It was at 10 early dec which would have included Decembers shipments already.

12 million shipped sounds accurate. They announced that they had basically shipped 10 million first week of November. They would continue to ship for holiday sales burst all of November into December.

Neither does 360 doing any more than 2 million. Stop using AMD's figures as such hard factual figures.

No they said "SOON", and shipments go out long before so that would have included there holiday shipments. You dont ship and retailers get the inventory in the same week, by then that was there holiday shipment. Its not near 12.

Where did you get the 12M LTD by the way, I dont see it in the report? Are you just guessing compared to real facts by AMD?

So we should not use AMD numbers, who design the damn chips but listen to you?? AMD knows how much they have shipped, more then most anyone.

Why not?

19mi consoles shipped in the last 5 quarters, do you think the 360 could have sold/shiped more than 7mi console in one year?

That are some amazing legs for a 9 years old hardware...

it's my estimation yeah. The AMD thing does not add up, unless again you think 360 was flat yoy.

so only 20% decrease in Xbox 360 revenues? This means that 360 shipped more than 2 million for sure.