S.T.A.G.E. said:
JEMC said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JEMC said:
I don't want to mess with your debate, but that sentence is not correct.
After those 3-4 years the PS3 was no longer sold at a loss, but that doesn't mean that the console has been profitable for Sony.
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The PS3 turned to profit in 2010. Until then the PS2 was offsetting their losses. The slimline also launched lacking backwards compatibility among other things.
http://kotaku.com/5575994/after-nearly-four-years-the-ps3-finally-turns-a-profit
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From that link:
"This year is the first time that we are able to cover the cost of the PlayStation 3", Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told IGN. "We aren't making huge money from hardware, but we aren't bleeding like we used to."
In 2010 the console began to be sold for a profit, not a loss. But that doesn't mean that they can get back the millions they lost during the first 4 years and make the console profitable, and by profitable I mean getting back all the money they have spend on it, from R&D to the hardware itself.
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So? It doesn't matter. What do you want from the company? Wii money? Nintendo had been making hand over fist out of the gate. You couldn't expect massive amounts of money so soon? Money was starting to come back into the company at a profit regardless. The PS2 sales were being used to offset the loss of the PS3. Sony takes great risks with their consoles hence why they initiated the 10 year profitability plan. Microsoft later adopted this plan so they could follow behind them with the Xbox 360 until Sony pulls the plug on the PS3. The PS3 was no longer a problem until the Vita launched. Watch. The day Sony pulls the plug on the PS3 is the day Microsoft pulls the plug on the 360. The VIta was (and still is) the big gaping hole in Sony's losses from 2011 forward. The PS3 sales have been offsetting the losses the Vita has caused thus far.
Sony took the risks and because of it since the 90's your family, my family and many other peoples families were able to to buy CD's, DVD's and Blu Rays at at fair market price from the 90's until now. Until Sony launched their consoles at a loss people could barely get their hands on those formats.
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Sony's strategy is not the question here.
You said that Nintendo should drop the price of the Wii U to $250 and still make a profit (something that we don't know if it's true, btw), like Sony did with the PS3 after 4 years. But what we have to remember is that Sony is (or was) willing to take heavy losses on its hardware in their first years because they could get the money back from the other sides of the company, but that's not the case with Nintendo. Nintendo needs to profit from both software and hardware to still be profitable.
Look what happened in the last 2 years: even with the 3DS being profitable and its first party games, Nintendo has lost money because of the Wii U. And that's because they followed Sony/MSoft's strategy and sold their console at a loss. Nintendo can't do that, they need every machine to be sold for a profit and get back all the money they invested on it to use that money again in the next console.
That's the point here, Nintendo needs to focus on getting back all the money they can first, and once that goal is on track, try to get back some of the lost marketshare.
Please excuse my bad English.
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