Did Microsoft just force Nintendo's hand?

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S.T.A.G.E. said:

bowserthedog said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Soundwave said:

Nintendo doesn't give poops about what MS or Sony are doing at this point.

They're not in that ball game anymore and haven't been for a while. 

They're having enough headaches trying to deal with the impact of smartphones/tablets eating away their strongholds of the kids market/casual/beginner players.

Yes they are in the same ball game, they just screwed up by losing the third parties after trying to court them in 2012.

(See the Nintendo conference E32012)

Nintendo gave the illusion they were trying to court them. Mostly they need some content year one while Nintendo played catch up on HD game development.

When Nintendo matches the features of Playstation and Xbox and has the same power at the same time then you could say they truely courted the cross platfrom games.

No. Nintendo expressed regret after the Wii era ended at the lack of highly praised and selling third party content on their platform. When this was revealed Activision was finally open to giving Nintendo a current gen port of Black Ops 2 because the console was finally on par, but one thing was missing which was community (sales) of the franchise on their platform. Reggie went on the news telling people that the Wii U was the best platform to play COD on, because they wanted the Wii U to be seen as no different than the Playstation in offerings but offering a twist with the way you play it. If marketers do not see a large enough installed base that could effectively pay for DLC they remove DLC from that platform. Generally its around 20% share of the installed base of the platforms base. 

Watch their E3 conference in 2012. Nintendo courted numerous third party devs after going on a media crusade to prove they could stand with them. Something happened to cause them to have a falling out with EA and other publishers. What caused it? I don't know...but I bet a great portion of it has everything to do with the fact that Nintendo was too little too late and wanted third party to downport their next gen titles for them, which they had already said since 2011 was not going to happen unless console publishers met specifications. Microsoft and Sony were the only ones to listen.

Dude.  I'm well aware that all of these things happened.  But they didn't actually agressively pursue 3rd parties. Maybe verbally they did. But not by giving them what they want. It would take several years and a very concious effort from Nintendo to get back on par with Sony and Microsoft in terms of cross platform games. They would need to match the power or go a bit higher from the start and for the entire duration of a generation. They would have to match all of the features of the other systems in terms of online play and the system would have to be very simple to make games for. Similar to a pc in architecture. Merely speaking words and saying that would like to see ports simply isn't courting them at all. They still build systems for their own games and then hope the ports will come. But they most certainly aren't doing what it would take. It would have to be so easy to port games to it that the port cost would be significantly below would they would make off a game. There would have to be a significant profit motive. There would be no "on switch" to immedietely get high sales on port games on Nintendo but what they need to do is make is very cheap to move games to the platform. Not come out with a system which has a much slower CPU than last gen systems.

One must also keep in mind when monitering what Nintendo says versus what Nintendo does is that you guys jump all over them if they dare suggest that cross platform games are insignificant. Honestly, what would be the reaction if Iwata came out on stage and said with our new console we don't care about cross platform 3rd party games because consumers buy our consoles for our superior games?  You guys would call them arrogant and ect ect ect. They can't do that.