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ZarskiSold on 13 January 2015
walsufnir said:
ZarskiSold said:

Massive disappointment to me, this is just milking it. Id love to see a Forza with +3 years of development time between em but clearly the cow has to be milked to death. This thing will never achieve a status or quality it could, will always be second best of it genre.

If they again do day one dlc and $50 car pass, ill bargain bin it.

F5 was a massive let down, I'l be setting my hopes to nil and maybe i can be plesantly surprised.


Milking? How? If it has enough content, why not release it? You can also wait for Forza 7, releasing in 2017, you don't have to buy it.

And second to what in the genre?

Milking by churming out a sequal every two years, dont pretand that is enough time to make a truely worthy sequal.  Its just greed motivated not much else.  I dont,  Second to Gt as always.



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walsufnir on 13 January 2015
Skidmore said:
walsufnir said:
Skidmore said:

Forza 5... Forza 4 the variety was good.

 

I heard Forza 5 was patched and had a whole lot of cars available, aside from micro-transactions and dlc while the mt has almost gotten rid off via patches. That's why I asked what you meant. Do you own Forza 5?

Easy buddy, I do own it, Look what I said. I was wanting more Cars by day one, not having the others Cars be released through months away via DLC, and it was around 100 cars. 200 was not a huge number for starters.

 Took the extra time to finish the cars, and do not make Bi-Anual releases.

I was not in merit of paid or unpaid DLC, I was bragging about day one content.


I guess the game suffered clearly from being a launch game and I wouldn't take it as an example for future Forza's, to be honest. Didn't they also add 3 free tracks over time?

I think it's safe to say Forza 5 didn't release the way Turn10 wanted to release it.



GTAexpert on 13 January 2015
walsufnir said:
GTAexpert said:
walsufnir said:
ZarskiSold said:

Massive disappointment to me, this is just milking it. Id love to see a Forza with +3 years of development time between em but clearly the cow has to be milked to death. This thing will never achieve a status or quality it could, will always be second best of it genre.

If they again do day one dlc and $50 car pass, ill bargain bin it.

F5 was a massive let down, I'l be setting my hopes to nil and maybe i can be plesantly surprised.


Milking? How? If it has enough content, why not release it? You can also wait for Forza 7, releasing in 2017, you don't have to buy it.

And second to what in the genre?

He probably means Gran Turismo and I agree with him.


Nothing wrong with opinions :)

Yeah you're right though the rest of what he stated is fact. Forza is coming out every year, and these FM games are not even that good. I wouldn't have mind an FH game though.



walsufnir on 13 January 2015
ZarskiSold said:
walsufnir said:
ZarskiSold said:

Massive disappointment to me, this is just milking it. Id love to see a Forza with +3 years of development time between em but clearly the cow has to be milked to death. This thing will never achieve a status or quality it could, will always be second best of it genre.

If they again do day one dlc and $50 car pass, ill bargain bin it.

F5 was a massive let down, I'l be setting my hopes to nil and maybe i can be plesantly surprised.


Milking? How? If it has enough content, why not release it? You can also wait for Forza 7, releasing in 2017, you don't have to buy it.

And second to what in the genre?

Milking by churming out a sequal every two years, dont pretand that is enough time to make a truely worthy sequal.  Its just greed motivated not much else.  I dont,  Second to Gt as always.


Why is it not enough? Many games released within a 2 years cycle. For example UC1-3. Didn't they get better then? Especially in a racing game I can see devs improving the game *all the time* and every two years they release the current state of development.

And second to GT is something many agree, many don't. Critically this wasn't really a competition last gen.



Skidmore on 13 January 2015
walsufnir said:
Skidmore said:

Easy buddy, I do own it, Look what I said. I was wanting more Cars by day one, not having the others Cars be released through months away via DLC, and it was around 100 cars. 200 was not a huge number for starters.

 Took the extra time to finish the cars, and do not make Bi-Anual releases.

I was not in merit of paid or unpaid DLC, I was bragging about day one content.


I guess the game suffered clearly from being a launch game and I wouldn't take it as an example for future Forza's, to be honest. Didn't they also add 3 free tracks over time?

I think it's safe to say Forza 5 didn't release the way Turn10 wanted to release it.

This is what I am hoping for and trying to say in my first post. Sorry for not elaborating enough, so we could agree since the begining. 

But if they do it again, I will bragg again. Still giving the benefit of doubt.

P.S: They gave away the Nurburgring, which is one of my favorites tracks, along with Spa.



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walsufnir on 13 January 2015
GTAexpert said:
walsufnir said:


Nothing wrong with opinions :)

Yeah you're right though the rest of what he stated is fact. Forza is coming out every year, and these FM games are not even that good. I wouldn't have mind an FH game though.


Forza franchise seem to be released now yearly but they are two totally different games. And they aren't good? Well, critics seem to think totally otherwise. As do I. Again, your opinion, totally. Like my opinion, of course.



ZarskiSold on 13 January 2015
walsufnir said:
ZarskiSold said:
walsufnir said:
ZarskiSold said:

Massive disappointment to me, this is just milking it. Id love to see a Forza with +3 years of development time between em but clearly the cow has to be milked to death. This thing will never achieve a status or quality it could, will always be second best of it genre.

If they again do day one dlc and $50 car pass, ill bargain bin it.

F5 was a massive let down, I'l be setting my hopes to nil and maybe i can be plesantly surprised.


Milking? How? If it has enough content, why not release it? You can also wait for Forza 7, releasing in 2017, you don't have to buy it.

And second to what in the genre?

Milking by churming out a sequal every two years, dont pretand that is enough time to make a truely worthy sequal.  Its just greed motivated not much else.  I dont,  Second to Gt as always.


Why is it not enough? Many games released within a 2 years cycle. For example UC1-3. Didn't they get better then? Especially in a racing game I can see devs improving the game *all the time* and every two years they release the current state of development.

And second to GT is something many agree, many don't. Critically this wasn't really a competition last gen.

14 tracks 200 cars, thats why its not enough.  

Forza is head the way of need for speed, ms greed will kill a great franchise just watch it happen.  



walsufnir on 13 January 2015
ZarskiSold said:
walsufnir said:


Why is it not enough? Many games released within a 2 years cycle. For example UC1-3. Didn't they get better then? Especially in a racing game I can see devs improving the game *all the time* and every two years they release the current state of development.

And second to GT is something many agree, many don't. Critically this wasn't really a competition last gen.

14 tracks 200 cars, thats why its not enough.  

Forza is head the way of need for speed, ms greed will kill a great franchise just watch it happen.  


You already know how many tracks and cars will be in the final game? What are you talking about?

But I guess the discussion should end here, your mind is already preset.



GTAexpert on 13 January 2015
walsufnir said:
GTAexpert said:
walsufnir said:
 


Nothing wrong with opinions :)

Yeah you're right though the rest of what he stated is fact. Forza is coming out every year, and these FM games are not even that good. I wouldn't have mind an FH game though.


Forza franchise seem to be released now yearly but they are two totally different games. And they aren't good? Well, critics seem to think totally otherwise. As do I. Again, your opinion, totally. Like my opinion, of course.

I honestly think critical appraisal doesn't indicate if a game is good or not, just that its not bad. Critics have become shit over the year and I don't care about what they say. As for how different FM and FH are, yeah they are very different to the point where I really like FH and really dislike FM, but he is right that this IP is being used all too frequently since 2011.

MS could have instead made a new PGR game, would have been much more exciting for me.



ZarskiSold on 13 January 2015
walsufnir said:
ZarskiSold said:
walsufnir said:
 


Why is it not enough? Many games released within a 2 years cycle. For example UC1-3. Didn't they get better then? Especially in a racing game I can see devs improving the game *all the time* and every two years they release the current state of development.

And second to GT is something many agree, many don't. Critically this wasn't really a competition last gen.

14 tracks 200 cars, thats why its not enough.  

Forza is head the way of need for speed, ms greed will kill a great franchise just watch it happen.  


You already know how many tracks and cars will be in the final game? What are you talking about?

But I guess the discussion should end here, your mind is already preset.

Yes its preset by FACTS and expericene with the last Forza.

What discussion, seems you are here to defend forza no matter what is said.  The is no dicussion to be had with some one preset to applaud and defend the game bar none.