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I want GC 2.0

It was the worst selling but sales don't kill my enjoyment for a system. It was also my least favorite Nintendo console but that was because of the games.

I like the idea of a small, simplistic system that plays games



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Jranation said:
zorg1000 said:
Jranation said:
Darwinianevolution said:
-Being able to read DVDs. At this point, the technology for that has to be cheap and easy to do.
-A bigger inner memory. 32 gb are going to be ridiculous entering the next gen. At least 200-300 gb minimum.
-Stop multiplying the controllers: there's the GamePad, the Wiimote and nunchuck, the classic controller wii, the pro controller wiiu, the GC adaptor... I'm not saying that they should stop supporting them, but they might prefer making only one controller and sticking with it.


Yes!!! And it would be good if you can also watch it on the gamepad! And if there will be multiple gamepads, it would be cool if it allows you to watch the same movie on all of the 4 gamepads =D 


Why wouldn't u just use a TV to watch it? 4 people watching the same movie, at the same place but all watching a different screen would be very strange.

1 - It would be portable ( watch it in the toilet or while taking a bath )

2 - A family might only have 1 TV, so it would be cool if they can easily put it on the game pad and watch from there. 

 

These little things can make a product feel much more unique. 

I'm talking about that last part, "watch the same movie on all 4 gamepads", if 4 people are watching the same thing, why not watch it on the TV?



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
Jranation said:
zorg1000 said:
Jranation said:
Darwinianevolution said:
-Being able to read DVDs. At this point, the technology for that has to be cheap and easy to do.
-A bigger inner memory. 32 gb are going to be ridiculous entering the next gen. At least 200-300 gb minimum.
-Stop multiplying the controllers: there's the GamePad, the Wiimote and nunchuck, the classic controller wii, the pro controller wiiu, the GC adaptor... I'm not saying that they should stop supporting them, but they might prefer making only one controller and sticking with it.


Yes!!! And it would be good if you can also watch it on the gamepad! And if there will be multiple gamepads, it would be cool if it allows you to watch the same movie on all of the 4 gamepads =D 


Why wouldn't u just use a TV to watch it? 4 people watching the same movie, at the same place but all watching a different screen would be very strange.

1 - It would be portable ( watch it in the toilet or while taking a bath )

2 - A family might only have 1 TV, so it would be cool if they can easily put it on the game pad and watch from there. 

 

These little things can make a product feel much more unique. 

I'm talking about that last part, "watch the same movie on all 4 gamepads", if 4 people are watching the same thing, why not watch it on the TV?


What if they aren't just watching it?  What if they could also be manipulating the image?  There are any number of ways that using 4 gamepads at the same time could not isolate everyone in the room, but rather bring them together.  You've got to think beyond the paradigm we live in right now.  I'm not suggesting Nintendo will do this...but I am suggesting that I would like them to try.  Could you imagine playing pictionary on 4 gamepads with everyone drawing...and one person guessing.  The person guessing can see all the other inputs on his screen simultaneously.  These are just a few examples. 



I don't think it will come with a gamepad.
I think you will be able to use the handheld as a gamepad, or buy a gamepad yourself as an accesory.

I also think the console will be able to play all the handheld games upscaled, but you may need to use the handheld or a gamepad as a controller because of the touchscreen.

I think the only reason why Nintendo consoles don't read dvds is because they don't want to pay royalties to Sony. There is a homebrew app that lets you play dvds on the wii.



super_etecoon said:
zorg1000 said:
Jranation said:
zorg1000 said:
Jranation said:
Darwinianevolution said:
-Being able to read DVDs. At this point, the technology for that has to be cheap and easy to do.
-A bigger inner memory. 32 gb are going to be ridiculous entering the next gen. At least 200-300 gb minimum.
-Stop multiplying the controllers: there's the GamePad, the Wiimote and nunchuck, the classic controller wii, the pro controller wiiu, the GC adaptor... I'm not saying that they should stop supporting them, but they might prefer making only one controller and sticking with it.


Yes!!! And it would be good if you can also watch it on the gamepad! And if there will be multiple gamepads, it would be cool if it allows you to watch the same movie on all of the 4 gamepads =D 


Why wouldn't u just use a TV to watch it? 4 people watching the same movie, at the same place but all watching a different screen would be very strange.

1 - It would be portable ( watch it in the toilet or while taking a bath )

2 - A family might only have 1 TV, so it would be cool if they can easily put it on the game pad and watch from there. 

 

These little things can make a product feel much more unique. 

I'm talking about that last part, "watch the same movie on all 4 gamepads", if 4 people are watching the same thing, why not watch it on the TV?


What if they aren't just watching it?  What if they could also be manipulating the image?  There are any number of ways that using 4 gamepads at the same time could not isolate everyone in the room, but rather bring them together.  You've got to think beyond the paradigm we live in right now.  I'm not suggesting Nintendo will do this...but I am suggesting that I would like them to try.  Could you imagine playing pictionary on 4 gamepads with everyone drawing...and one person guessing.  The person guessing can see all the other inputs on his screen simultaneously.  These are just a few examples. 

That's completely different, ur original example was 4 people watching the same movie on different screens, that's what i said was weird. I'm not saying 4 gamepads is weird in any way, shape or form.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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zorg1000 said:
super_etecoon said:
zorg1000 said:
Jranation said:
zorg1000 said:
Jranation said:
Darwinianevolution said:
-Being able to read DVDs. At this point, the technology for that has to be cheap and easy to do.
-A bigger inner memory. 32 gb are going to be ridiculous entering the next gen. At least 200-300 gb minimum.
-Stop multiplying the controllers: there's the GamePad, the Wiimote and nunchuck, the classic controller wii, the pro controller wiiu, the GC adaptor... I'm not saying that they should stop supporting them, but they might prefer making only one controller and sticking with it.


Yes!!! And it would be good if you can also watch it on the gamepad! And if there will be multiple gamepads, it would be cool if it allows you to watch the same movie on all of the 4 gamepads =D 


Why wouldn't u just use a TV to watch it? 4 people watching the same movie, at the same place but all watching a different screen would be very strange.

1 - It would be portable ( watch it in the toilet or while taking a bath )

2 - A family might only have 1 TV, so it would be cool if they can easily put it on the game pad and watch from there. 

 

These little things can make a product feel much more unique. 

I'm talking about that last part, "watch the same movie on all 4 gamepads", if 4 people are watching the same thing, why not watch it on the TV?


What if they aren't just watching it?  What if they could also be manipulating the image?  There are any number of ways that using 4 gamepads at the same time could not isolate everyone in the room, but rather bring them together.  You've got to think beyond the paradigm we live in right now.  I'm not suggesting Nintendo will do this...but I am suggesting that I would like them to try.  Could you imagine playing pictionary on 4 gamepads with everyone drawing...and one person guessing.  The person guessing can see all the other inputs on his screen simultaneously.  These are just a few examples. 

That's completely different, ur original example was 4 people watching the same movie on different screens, that's what i said was weird. I'm not saying 4 gamepads is weird in any way, shape or form.

Sorry to have interrupted the conversation you were having with Jranation...he was the one you were responding to.  I was just providing support that it would be an interesting possibility.



super_etecoon said:

Well I think we've probably hit the halfway point in the lifespan of the WiiU.  As always, it's safe to assume that Nintendo is hard at work deciding the path they will take for the next half  decade.  So what would you like to see feature-wise in Nintendo's next system.  This isn't about securing third parties or moneyhatting exclusives, or even about their ability to market. Purely I'd like to see this discussion based in terms of innovations and refinements within the product itself.

I'll start off this discussion by giving a few of my opinions:

 

  • Multiple Gamepads: Yes...I want the gamepad to stay.  I think it's the coolest feature of this generation.  I've been playing Unepic on the gamepad these last few days and the controller really makes all that inventory quite manageable, believe it or not. But I would like to see Nintendo support 2, and preferably 4 gamepads this next generation.  I think we all can agree that the biggest letdown of this console was that the unique controller would only be playable by one person.
  • Better Gamepad Range:  I'm not asking for the ability to leave my house...but I'd really like to be able to go anywhere within a standard 1,500-2,000 sq ft house and not lose signal.  I'm not sure what needs to happen to make this a reality, but can't tehre be an external signal transmitter that we could plug into a wall socket?
  • Backwards Compatibility: Wii through Nintendo Next! I think hoping for GC compatibility is too much to ask for...but since all the controllers from the Wii on will use blue tooth, tis should be a no brainer, regardless of the drive Nintendo goes with this next generation.
So there's a few of my suggestions....your turn.  And if this thread has been made recently, feel free to let me (and the mods) know so they can give it the 'ol lockaroo!

 

right there with you on the first 2 points. Although the second one ain't an issue for myself since I live in a small 70m² appartment, I can understand why some would like that. I would further add a better battery life and higher resolution screen to the gamepad, as both can be an annoyance in some games.

About the backwards compatibility... If it's true that AMD is changing to x86 architecture, then this will will become very difficult (read: nigh impossible) to achieve, at least for Wii U titles (Wii and Gamecube wouldn't be a problem) since the emulation of a different architecture is a super effective computing ressource destroyer. However, eShop titles which don't fully use the Wii U Hardware capabilities could be transferred to the new console, especially if there's also a PC Port of that specific game.

Now, since backwards compatibilty is probably not doable without a Wii U legacy chipset, my suggestion would be to ditch the optical drive altogether and go back to cartridges. After all, the main reason why one has to install most games on PS4/Xbox ONE is because the Blu-Rays have become too small to fit an entire AA or AAA Game on them with all their graphical features on these consoles. Cartridges are not limited by this as their internal space is scalable. Also, this would drastically limit loading times and could be used as an effective copy protection. This would also alleviate the need for big hard drives like their competitors need nowadays. The drawback of course would be a potentially higher price as cartridges are more expensive to produce, but since Nintendo games are already cheaper it would at worst just equalize the prices again.

As for hardware capabilites and going the x86 route, I would say by then a Zen based CPU (zen is a CPU slated for 2016, meant to replace all previous archtectures and going back to full cores unlike the modues AMD is using since Bulldozer in high power processors), Quad- or hexacore @ 3.2 Ghz+ (count 20-30W TDP just for that), Radeon 3xx or 4xx Graphics chip with at least 24 Compute Units (CU, resulting in 1536 Streaming processors, need to be more than the 18 CU (1156 Streaming Processors) of the PS4 but considering technical limitations it just can't go much further than this). If the first leaks of the 390(X) are to be true, than such a chip could go down to 50-70W TDP. Adding to this would be 8-16 GiB RAM, and using HBM2 or 3 (first generation HBM is limited to 4GiB) here would be very efficient (10-20W depending on clock rates and including the Mainboard and other minor electricity consumers). So for 80-120W TDP this would become a very playable console for a 2017-2018 release

And since there is no backwards compatibilty, the Wiimotes can be either diched or upgraded to become much more accurate.



Ditch Gamepad - Or make an extremely smaller one. Preferably ditch.

PC Specs. Fast OS (flipping base it off linux/OSX)

Third Party games



platformmaster918 said:

Just do everything the other 2 are doing but 7 years later. Basically the WiiU strategy.

Moderated,

-Mr Khan


Despite the dig he's not wrong. Nintendo needs to do what the others have along with their own unique ideas. No point ignoring features people like just to be different.



Build a tablet hybrid console and a home console with advanced motion controls