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Madword on 25 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
CosmicSex said:
celador said:
I think Sony should ride out most of the year at $400, even if X1 gets ahead, and then have a large price cut right at the start of November. $70 or so

 

PS4 has now become a premium product.


Says who? You? Because that's not what most MLG, competitive online gamers think. PSN is too weak for that system to be called "premium" imo. I own one, I know. The damn thing went down three times in three weeks lol. There is NOTHING premium about PSN. The console is definitely better and so is it's UI. The games, taken as a whole, are better. But that online service is so unrealiable that there is no WAY you can call it a premium product. That's just my opinion.

Premium product doesnt mean what you think it means. It just means a quality product that people are prepared to pay more for, has nothing to do with MLG/Competative gamers. If he had said premium service I think they could have been called out on the PSN troubles, but he used the phrase premium product.

It's not a word that I particularly like but it can be used when two products are fighting for a similar market and one is able to sell more with a more expensive proce..... It has been suggested for quite a while that the PS4 is a stronger piece of hardware, a better made device, which also has better asthetics (people will agree or disagree). These are all the things that make a premium product.



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TheObserver on 25 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
CosmicSex said:
celador said:
I think Sony should ride out most of the year at $400, even if X1 gets ahead, and then have a large price cut right at the start of November. $70 or so

 

PS4 has now become a premium product.


Says who? You? Because that's not what most MLG, competitive online gamers think. PSN is too weak for that system to be called "premium" imo. I own one, I know. The damn thing went down three times in three weeks lol. There is NOTHING premium about PSN. The console is definitely better and so is it's UI. The games, taken as a whole, are better. But that online service is so unrealiable that there is no WAY you can call it a premium product. That's just my opinion.


Premium doesn't mean perfect, It's just superior compared to the XB1. LIVE is also down every other day, or atleast some features of it are like friends lists, and party chat, etc. which pretty much makes it useless due to how much of a hassle it becomes to play with someone you want.



2008ProchargedGT on 25 January 2015
CGI-Quality said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Aura7541 said:

So it looks like the X1's baseline will be lower than the PS4's despite having a $50 price advantage. And this is before PS4 begins to have The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, MLB 15: The Show, etc. to temporarily boost sales.


Let me say this before I get charged with something I never said... I own a PS4... my GF is currently sitting next to me, playing Minecraft on said PS4... I actually like my PS4... but if we're going to be honest here, those games are not casual enough to warrant much of a boost if any boost at all. The types of games that really boost consoles are the ones with mass appeal like MK8, Titanfall, Halo, COD... you get the picture. 

This whole thing where fanboys are up in arms over the Xbone taking the US, it's nonsense because it's inevitable. I don't think they should be conerned with it. Of course, a fanboy is a fanboy for a reason, and being rational is not one of those, but really, it's stupid. The PS4 is going to win in total WW sales. 

There's nothing inevitable about the X1 taking over the US (obviously, as Amazon is just one of several outlets that has the PS4 ahead again). I also don't know what Minecraft has to do with anything. I didn't see anyone suggest that it was some system boosting title for the PS4.

Nope its inevitable.  Sony will not drop the price of the PS4 ever or release a slim modle. MS however will be 300 before you know it the 250 then 200 then slim.....



Aura7541 on 25 January 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
Aura7541 said:

So it looks like the X1's baseline will be lower than the PS4's despite having a $50 price advantage. And this is before PS4 begins to have The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, MLB 15: The Show, etc. to temporarily boost sales.

Let me say this before I get charged with something I never said... I own a PS4... my GF is currently sitting next to me, playing Minecraft on said PS4... I actually like my PS4... but if we're going to be honest here, those games are not casual enough to warrant much of a boost if any boost at all. The types of games that really boost consoles are the ones with mass appeal like MK8, Titanfall, Halo, COD... you get the picture. 

This whole thing where fanboys are up in arms over the Xbone taking the US, it's nonsense because it's inevitable. I don't think they should be conerned with it. Of course, a fanboy is a fanboy for a reason, and being rational is not one of those, but really, it's stupid. The PS4 is going to win in total WW sales. 

Hence why I said "temporarily boost sales". Sales will go up when these games launch and then, gradually fall back to the original baseline. I never claimed that these games will have the same affect as MK8 or COD. I just said that PS4 sales will go up for a short while when its exclusives launch.

The PS4 is outselling the X1 in most retailers in the US despite that it has a $50 price disadvantage. X1 taking the US is not set in stone. As seen last year, winning January to (end of) October was more beneficial than winning November & December. What if the PS4 wins November and December, too? Even if not, what if the PS4 only got outsold by 200K for the holiday season?



Blood_Tears on 25 January 2015

This thread has almost 45k views which is awesome but in looking at the December Amazon thread there is quite a few users missing in here. Hmm I wonder why...



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GribbleGrunger on 25 January 2015
2008ProchargedGT said:

Nope its inevitable.  Sony will not drop the price of the PS4 ever or release a slim modle. MS however will be 300 before you know it the 250 then 200 then slim.....

Is this a serious post or is it tongue in cheek?



 

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mornelithe on 25 January 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
2008ProchargedGT said:

Nope its inevitable.  Sony will not drop the price of the PS4 ever or release a slim modle. MS however will be 300 before you know it the 250 then 200 then slim.....

Is this a serious post or is it tongue in cheak?

My sarcasm detector broke when I saw it, so yeah, def tongue in cheek.



Pionner on 25 January 2015

when someone has to mention what system they own before they go on and give their thoughts about it as if were true, inevitable? Yeah right.......You know what's up. By the way, XB1 has passed PS4 on BB charts. Lets see how long it last.



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Insidb on 25 January 2015
mornelithe said:
GribbleGrunger said:
2008ProchargedGT said:

Nope its inevitable.  Sony will not drop the price of the PS4 ever or release a slim modle. MS however will be 300 before you know it the 250 then 200 then slim.....

Is this a serious post or is it tongue in cheak?

My sarcasm detector broke when I saw it, so yeah, def tongue in cheek.

Sarcasm detector? Boy, THAT'S really useful!



Insidb on 25 January 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
2008ProchargedGT said:

Nope its inevitable.  Sony will not drop the price of the PS4 ever or release a slim modle. MS however will be 300 before you know it the 250 then 200 then slim.....

Is this a serious post or is it tongue in cheek?

Right?