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for my pc build this is what i plan to get

Intel Haswell Extreme Series Core i7 5930K 6 Core. 3.5Ghz, 15MB Cache,X99 Platform Only No Heatsink included

ASRock X99 Extreme4 Intel X99 Chipset for LGA2011-3 CPUs, 8 X DDR4 DIMMs, 3-Way SLI/CrossfireX,Intel Gigabit Lan,10 X SATA3,USB3.0, M.2 Slot,

Gigabyte GV-N970WF3OC-4GD GTX970 4G OC Version Winforce 3X Cooling PCI-E Video card , 1644CUDA , 1253Mhz/ 7000Mhz , Flex Display for up to 4 Display , Dual DVI+HDMI+ 3x Display Ports

MEMGSK0519 G.SKILL TridentX 16GB (2x8GB)DDR3 2400MHz (PC3 19200) 240-Pin Ultra Performance DDR3 SDRAM Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX

Corsair 1000W RM-1000 ATX Power Supply, 80 PLUS Gold Certified, Full Modular, 5 Year Warranty - MEPS Ready

HDDSE3004 Seagate 3TB Barracuda SATA3 7200RPM 6Gb/s 64MB Internal HDD ( 2 years warranty )

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Prem 64bit OEM // ( i need it as i am usign fake one at the moment.)

I already have a good sound card, lots of fan . I already have a massive case as well

Is there anythng else i should add to that instead of ssd?

 

my plan is not to have to upgrade for awhile and after few years just on epart or so. this should be good enough right  especially for 1080 60fps?



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Lawlight said:
Captain_Tom said:
Lawlight said:
Captain_Tom said:
Lawlight said:
So, do people who game on PCs and have desktops also buy a laptop?


I do. For those who want the best of all worlds (Price/performance, power, Portability) I would recommend getting a cheaper (But still nice) netbook with a long batter life, and then a gaming desktop.  That way you get both for the same price as a UBER laptop while still beating it in performance and portability.

 

Of course I myself splurged on a portable gaming laptop as well as a nice desktop.  But I would never get one of those 17" "Desktop Replacements."  They are completily pointless...

Why are they pointless?

For all the reasons I just said.  If you want a gaming desktop: get one!  It will be half the price of that "Desktop Replacement" and stronger as well.  And you can keep the monitor too since it won't be attatched to the machine.

If you want a laptop, get one that is light and lasts longer than 2 hours.  Otherwise you might as well not even have one.

The only difference between a laptop and a netbook is that a netbook has a smaller screen, is lighter and is much less powerful. Honestly, unless the few hundreds of grams in weight bother you, there is absolutely no reason to get a netbook.

Weighing a forth as much as a "Desktop Replacement" and having an all-day battery life is massively different.  Laptops are meant to be portable in my world (And most other peoples').  I had a bulky laptop, and then I got a netbook (Which are just as fast at everything but gaming) because i needed to be able to bring a laptop to class easily - my god it was so much better.  Sell the portable-anchor and then get a desktop - You will be much happier because that is clearly what you really want.



dane007 said:

for my pc build this is what i plan to get

Intel Haswell Extreme Series Core i7 5930K 6 Core. 3.5Ghz, 15MB Cache,X99 Platform Only No Heatsink included

ASRock X99 Extreme4 Intel X99 Chipset for LGA2011-3 CPUs, 8 X DDR4 DIMMs, 3-Way SLI/CrossfireX,Intel Gigabit Lan,10 X SATA3,USB3.0, M.2 Slot,

Gigabyte GV-N970WF3OC-4GD GTX970 4G OC Version Winforce 3X Cooling PCI-E Video card , 1644CUDA , 1253Mhz/ 7000Mhz , Flex Display for up to 4 Display , Dual DVI+HDMI+ 3x Display Ports

MEMGSK0519 G.SKILL TridentX 16GB (2x8GB)DDR3 2400MHz (PC3 19200) 240-Pin Ultra Performance DDR3 SDRAM Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX

Corsair 1000W RM-1000 ATX Power Supply, 80 PLUS Gold Certified, Full Modular, 5 Year Warranty - MEPS Ready

HDDSE3004 Seagate 3TB Barracuda SATA3 7200RPM 6Gb/s 64MB Internal HDD ( 2 years warranty )

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Prem 64bit OEM // ( i need it as i am usign fake one at the moment.)

I already have a good sound card, lots of fan . I already have a massive case as well

Is there anythng else i should add to that instead of ssd?

 

my plan is not to have to upgrade for awhile and after few years just on epart or so. this should be good enough right  especially for 1080 60fps?

That setup does not make any sense. General rule: If your CPU is more expensive than your GPU, you're not building a gaming PC.


Get an i7 4790k, put what you safe for CPU and mainboard towards a 980. Get a PSU half as big. Then it starts making sense.



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Captain_Tom said:

Weighing a forth as much as a "Desktop Replacement" and having an all-day battery life is massively different.  Laptops are meant to be portable in my world (And most other peoples').  I had a bulky laptop, and then I got a netbook (Which are just as fast at everything but gaming) because i needed to be able to bring a laptop to class easily - my god it was so much better.  Sell the portable-anchor and then get a desktop - You will be much happier because that is clearly what you really want.


Desktops are useless - you can't carry it with you when travelling and it takes up a lot of space. I have a netbook too and it's way too weak for how I use my PC. There's a good reason why you don't get a desktop or netbook for work.



Mike_L said:
Mr.Playstation said:

 Can you play all recent games released at 1080P/60fps with everything on high? If yes, how much money did you spend on your rig?

The majority of PC gamers can't run games on ultra at 1080p and 60fps. Most PC gamers have weaker hardware than PS4 and XB1.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Steam-Survey-Most-PC-Gamers-Have-Weaker-PCs-Than-PS4-Xbox-One-58833.html


This article was written by someone who doesn't understand computers and was using out of date data. Not to mention the article itself is out of date.



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My PC cost 700€ and I play almost everything at Ultra, 30+ fps. 2 years old games run easily 60fps.

PS4 plays games at medium settings 900p - 1080p 30 fps. Or 60fps with drops. Without any AA or stuff like that. Just saying...



Lawlight said:


Browsing this site on a tablet is an abomination. It is not mobile friendly at all. For info, I have an iPad Air 2. You also cannot see the VGChartz Buddy on the side and you cannot go straight to a reply to your post or the last posts.

Nopes, the on-screen keyboard isn't good enough for more than a couple of short sentences. Anymore than that and it's a hasssle.

A tablet also doesn't support all file formats and you cannot actually save, for example, all mail attachments to the tablet. Overall, unless you're not an adult and only use the web for lightweight browsing, you need a laptop over a tablet. Heck, I can't even listen to youtube while browsing the net on the iPad.

The buddy list ain't show on iOS (in favor of more precious screen space for the main frame), but do you really need it that much? I usually tap on some hot topic anyway and from there it's just another tap on "my topic" for a list, which is even better than the buddy list. Or via your profile (top right) and then "my posts".

I just sent an e-mail with attachments to my iPad (files that the tablet won't understand)... It received these files with no problems. I had the option to save thes files with GoodReader, DropBox and some other apps.

And you CAN listen to Youtube music while browsing the web. Just open youtube in one browser tab and then switch to another tab... You don't HAVE to use the Youtube-APP which won't run in the background (which makes sense from a video perspective... most people want their videos stopped as long as they look at them, music apps run in the background with no problem).

And if you don't like the Apple-constraints... An x86-Windows-tablet can do anything what a netbook or laptop can do.

Written on my on-screen keyboard with 10 fingers... Just as much text as your post ;)



vivster said:
dane007 said:

for my pc build this is what i plan to get

Intel Haswell Extreme Series Core i7 5930K 6 Core. 3.5Ghz, 15MB Cache,X99 Platform Only No Heatsink included

ASRock X99 Extreme4 Intel X99 Chipset for LGA2011-3 CPUs, 8 X DDR4 DIMMs, 3-Way SLI/CrossfireX,Intel Gigabit Lan,10 X SATA3,USB3.0, M.2 Slot,

Gigabyte GV-N970WF3OC-4GD GTX970 4G OC Version Winforce 3X Cooling PCI-E Video card , 1644CUDA , 1253Mhz/ 7000Mhz , Flex Display for up to 4 Display , Dual DVI+HDMI+ 3x Display Ports

MEMGSK0519 G.SKILL TridentX 16GB (2x8GB)DDR3 2400MHz (PC3 19200) 240-Pin Ultra Performance DDR3 SDRAM Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX

Corsair 1000W RM-1000 ATX Power Supply, 80 PLUS Gold Certified, Full Modular, 5 Year Warranty - MEPS Ready

HDDSE3004 Seagate 3TB Barracuda SATA3 7200RPM 6Gb/s 64MB Internal HDD ( 2 years warranty )

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Prem 64bit OEM // ( i need it as i am usign fake one at the moment.)

I already have a good sound card, lots of fan . I already have a massive case as well

Is there anythng else i should add to that instead of ssd?

 

my plan is not to have to upgrade for awhile and after few years just on epart or so. this should be good enough right  especially for 1080 60fps?

That setup does not make any sense. General rule: If your CPU is more expensive than your GPU, you're not building a gaming PC.


Get an i7 4790k, put what you safe for CPU and mainboard towards a 980. Get a PSU half as big. Then it starts making sense.


in nz the price between the cpu and gpu is very small lol.  Especially with thoswe choices. I was trying to future proof the pc hence why i chose the cpu as thats the best cpu for the prive you pay. the next ones up alone cost 1.3k and above.   I know the gpu would be somethign i have to replace down the track. i was thinking of less parts upgrade in teh futre hence the choice lol. if you want to put double graphics card down the track wouldn't putting 1000 watts be a good idea?  The reason why i chose 970 over 9060 is because the price you pay for 980 and gains you get from it , in comparison to 970 is small ? Correct me if i am wrong. Remember seeing teh fps davantage as small. 



Nice thread. After reading the response I feel good at my decision to be console only this gen (last gen I was PC and PS3). Better get a decent laptop (for email and normal stuff) instead of gaming rig this gen.



dane007 said:


in nz the price between the cpu and gpu is very small lol.  Especially with thoswe choices. I was trying to future proof the pc hence why i chose the cpu as thats the best cpu for the prive you pay. the next ones up alone cost 1.3k and above.   I know the gpu would be somethign i have to replace down the track. i was thinking of less parts upgrade in teh futre hence the choice lol. if you want to put double graphics card down the track wouldn't putting 1000 watts be a good idea?  The reason why i chose 970 over 9060 is because the price you pay for 980 and gains you get from it , in comparison to 970 is small ? Correct me if i am wrong. Remember seeing teh fps davantage as small.

The difference between 970 and 980 is between 10-20% depending on the game. The difference between the 5930k and 4790k is between -5% and 5%. Yes you heard right, the 4790k will be faster than the grossly overpriced 5930k in a lot of games due to higher base clock. In the end it doesn't even matter because your CPU will never be the bottleneck. You could even go with a 4770k and will never see a difference.

While the 970 is good, it will have already trouble with current games on ultra. So if you have the money definitely go for 980.

SLI is never a good idea except if you're going the full high end route from the start. I know a lot of people who were "planning" on just getting a second GPU later. I don't know a single person who actually went through with it. I will tell you why.

Let's say your GPU will be too slow for you in 2-3 years. You then have 2 choices, either buy a second card of the same type or buy a newer better card. Buying the old card will save you a few bucks but will have the huge disadavantage of being SLI:

- 2 cards don't scale efficiently which means you will not have double the power. In a best case scenario maybe 90%

- you will have what's known as micro jitter. That means in certain scenarios depending on the framerate and game the game will not run smoothly despite having a high enough average framerate

- You are absolutely dependent on SLI profiles. If a game you want to play has none, you are stuck with your old and weak GPU while the second one does nothing

- You will have unnecessarily high power consumption. First because years of an oversized PSU and then because you have 2 old and inefficient cards running

- you will miss out on all the new features that the last generations of GPUs brought with them

Now if you would just buy a newer card that is maybe 70-80% faster than your old one you will have none of these disadvantages except maybe paying a few extra bucks more.

What you should take away from this:

- Don't overprovision your CPU. By the time it becomes a bottleneck it's time for a new CPU and mainboard anyway

- Pick the highest GPU option your budget allows. Divert as many resources as possible from other components like CPU, mainboard and RAM and put it where it counts. Your GPU is your number one bottleneck and it will stay that way for a long time

- Don't buy a PSU for components you don't have. 1000W is too much for everything that's not 3 way SLI. 500W is sufficient for every single GPU setup with Intel.



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