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Dusk said:
Ruler said:
they should drop the gamepad and make the console cheaper without losing any money. The Wii U is not competitive with costing 280 bucks, people wouldnt mind buying WiiUs for 150 to 200 to play exclusive games along their core machines.


seriously, more "drop the gamepad" crap. It isn't going to happen. It's, unlike the kinect, directly implemented into the system and there are some games on the system that would be rendered unplayable without the gamepad. It is what it is. 

I'm not the most tech savvy person but exactly why is it not possible? For a moment lets forget arguments like inventory, losses and all that. Why is it impossible? Can't the Wii U just be patched to work without the Gamepad, similar to what they did with the Kinect. Can't they patch those few games that absolutely need it, to make them work without it? I understand it would require some work but why wouldn't that be possible?

It's not gonna happen at this point but I feel like this is something they should have considered before launching the console as well as a year into it, when it was already obvious sales were struggling. At this point, they might as well ride it out for another year or two, attempt to stay profitable and release the WiiU&Me or whatever they have up their sleeve.



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generic-user-1 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
generic-user-1 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
generic-user-1 said:

so u judge games quality by looking at the sales? so the wii sports/fit franchise has the highest quality of all time?

Seems pretty obvious to me that he is just saying quality is subjective...

yes, im know, he doesnt understand that thats wrong. the quality is objective, if u like a game or not, thats subjective.

u can dislike the game with the best quality ever, and u can like et 2600, nothing wrong with that, but saying et 2600 has higher quality than smb because u like it more is WRONG.

Quality most certainly is subjective. Somebody has got to decide what should be deemed as quality before they can say how much quality it has, therefore it is very much subjective.


yeah, somebody had to decide if a game with shitloads of bugs and glitches is better or one without those bugs.

and somebody had to decide if working controlls are better or those that dont respond at all.

 

 

and @soundwave who said u arnt allowed to play and enjoy low quality games?

and the mastersystem was so succesfull, but the Genesis WAS.

 

 

The Genesis was successful because it had lots of third party games, whereas the Sega Master System had (basically) none. So that just proves this is not a Nintendo thing, even the two most success traditional Nintendo consoles -- the NES and SNES, basically relied on the same formula the Playstation and XBox do today. 



Ka-pi96 said:
generic-user-1 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Quality most certainly is subjective. Somebody has got to decide what should be deemed as quality before they can say how much quality it has, therefore it is very much subjective.


yeah, somebody had to decide if a game with shitloads of bugs and glitches is better or one without those bugs.

and somebody had to decide if working controlls are better or those that dont respond at all.

Being a bug/glitch free game is a different thing from being a quality game.

For one thing, those bugs/glitches will be fixed, then the game may well be of very high quality, and at the same time a game could have no bugs or glitches but still be considered a terrible game by many.

those bugs will be fixed? they just patch out gamebreaking bugs, thats all.

and sure a high quality game could be terrible(im looking at you brawl), but for other reasons.

and games full of bugs and with bad controlls can be brilliant (shadows of the glitches).

but most of the time, high quality games arent terrible, why? because nobody  hunts months for bugs if the game is bad anyway.

buying nintendo games is much easyer than buying other games, because u dont have to consider quality, they are all fine, never had a bad one. so u just have to decide if u are interested in the genre/gameplay/story or not.

 



I heard sony is in truble and struggeling. Its not the best selling console of nintendo, but its not a problem for nintendo. Sonys money is ending I heard. I am extreme more worried about sony!

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Zelda - Breath of the Wild for Nintendo Switch.... Incredable!!!

generic-user-1 said:
oniyide said:
MegaDrive08 said:
 

Nintendo do offer the best quality, complete games packed with content, you get more bang for your buck with Nintendo, look at the quality DLC on MK8, you get a complete new game for about £13 or whatever it is, these other companys try and nickle and dime you for DLC and people support it and these companys are getting worse with it because gamers are letting them get away with it, for stuff that should of been in the game to begin with, look at smash bros packed with quality content, you get a complete game when you purchase it, quality! which quite frankly your not getting from these other third party companys.


opinions and more opinions. A paragraph of it is nto going to change. Money talks, numbers arent lying. IT doesnt matter what its packed wiht if people dont LIKE the game to begin with are arent willing to buy it no amount of "quality" DLC is gonna change that.

so u judge games quality by looking at the sales? so the wii sports/fit franchise has the highest quality of all time?

IM not judging anything. Dont put words in my mouth. I made no comments. Im stating that you're OPINIONS on what is quality is not right and they are OPINIONS and going by the numbers just reinforces that your beliefs are just that YOUR beliefs.



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generic-user-1 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
generic-user-1 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
generic-user-1 said:

so u judge games quality by looking at the sales? so the wii sports/fit franchise has the highest quality of all time?

Seems pretty obvious to me that he is just saying quality is subjective...

yes, im know, he doesnt understand that thats wrong. the quality is objective, if u like a game or not, thats subjective.

u can dislike the game with the best quality ever, and u can like et 2600, nothing wrong with that, but saying et 2600 has higher quality than smb because u like it more is WRONG.

Quality most certainly is subjective. Somebody has got to decide what should be deemed as quality before they can say how much quality it has, therefore it is very much subjective.


yeah, somebody had to decide if a game with shitloads of bugs and glitches is better or one without those bugs.

and somebody had to decide if working controlls are better or those that dont respond at all.

 

 

and @soundwave who said u arnt allowed to play and enjoy low quality games?

and the mastersystem was so succesfull, but the Genesis WAS.

 

 

but see thats the thing you refuse to understand if a person thinks that game with glitches is better than the one without, that is a quality game to them. More people buy Elder Scrolls games than they do Metroid despite the former having more bugs, they dont care the game is that fun to them that it overrides the bugs, hell the bugs might be part of the fun. 



oniyide said:

IM not judging anything. Dont put words in my mouth. I made no comments. Im stating that you're OPINIONS on what is quality is not right and they are OPINIONS and going by the numbers just reinforces that your beliefs are just that YOUR beliefs.


going by the numbers wii fit is 70 times better than ico&shadow of the colossus collection for ps3...

nice way of proving me wrong with numbers.  or am i using the numbers wrong?



generic-user-1 said:
oniyide said:
 

IM not judging anything. Dont put words in my mouth. I made no comments. Im stating that you're OPINIONS on what is quality is not right and they are OPINIONS and going by the numbers just reinforces that your beliefs are just that YOUR beliefs.


going by the numbers wii fit is 70 times better than ico&shadow of the colossus collection for ps3...

nice way of proving me wrong with numbers.  or am i using the numbers wrong?

again you fail. I make no comments on quality because it is subjective. YOU are the one trying to make quality objective. It isnt. IF it was then the games you deemed quality would be doing much better and they are not.



oniyide said:
generic-user-1 said:
oniyide said:
 

IM not judging anything. Dont put words in my mouth. I made no comments. Im stating that you're OPINIONS on what is quality is not right and they are OPINIONS and going by the numbers just reinforces that your beliefs are just that YOUR beliefs.


going by the numbers wii fit is 70 times better than ico&shadow of the colossus collection for ps3...

nice way of proving me wrong with numbers.  or am i using the numbers wrong?

again you fail. I make no comments on quality because it is subjective. YOU are the one trying to make quality objective. It isnt. IF it was then the games you deemed quality would be doing much better and they are not.


quality and sales arnt the same, a high quality game can flop and a low quality game can sale gangbusters.

why? because the most people are stupid and dont realy care for quality (or even fun), they just do what they told to.



What Nintendo needs to do is support itself by bridging their HH & console gap, both in content &  a HH more powerful than Ninty's usual ($250 launch would be justified this go round). Don't be el cheapo on the hw, make it Vita-ish impressive upon launch.