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Imaginedvl on 25 November 2014

You guys need to remove the quote trees :)



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keroncoward on 25 November 2014
tiffac said:
keroncoward said:
method114 said:
keroncoward said:
method114 said:
keroncoward said:
method114 said:
keroncoward said:
No doubt in my mind theres someone at top level thats being paid to run down the company and force a buy out. There is no way in hell they never learned from their mistakes in 2011 right? PSN has been the same poor service with the same old Linux servers since 2008 and they are now forcing people to pay for it when its free on PS3 and Vita. Every time I point this out to numerous news sites I get labeled a "troll" or "fanboy".


You probably get labeled that because it's hard to know when a company changes servers. So do you have any proof that they are running old linux servers from 2008?


Only proof i have is its the same network and same service that needs long mentainance down times. I also would get kicked offline randomly on PS4's psn just like i still currently do on my PS3. Its not my internet because it does not happen on Steam, Wii U or Xbox One with the exception of crappy ass Destiny. And no im not buying a Vita just to test if the same thing happens on there also but you can buy one for me if you like and I will give you an update on its online service.

Well you see that's not proof and that why you're labeled a troll. For instance I've never been kicked off PSN or xbox live with my PS3,360,PS4 or X1. You think it's not your network because Steam, wii U and X1 don't have issues but that's not the way it works.

If you want to post how you've always had issues with Sonys network staying connected and things like that you'll probably be fine. Making huge leaps that they're still  using the same servers from 2008 and what OS they're using is just silly.


They literally said themselves they are shutting down PS3 online games to use the same servers on PS4. Also what has changed about the service besides it being pay to play and features? It has the same connectivity issues and same long mentainance down times, nothing has changed and im not confident anything will in the near future. Hopefully they prove me wrong though.


So when I asked if you had a source for this you said no but now you have a source that Sony is using the same servers?  Also incase you didn't know servers can easily last five years espicially if you upgrade them. We don't know the original hardware the servers had in 2008 compared to now.


I have no time for flame baiting. You have google as a source and most on these forums know what im talking about. PS3 servers are gradually getting shut down to use on PS4. Spin it however you like im not replying to you anymore.

Just save everyone the trouble and post the dang thing. Not only it will prove you right but prove him wrong. Otherwise, you'll always be called out.

Make it easy for yourself.


Make what easy on myself? Im not going to search through google just to prove something most here already know. I cant remember specifics but Resistance 2 was to get shut down or already has been shut down for the servers to use on PS4. Funny thing is I read the news on this site. Also i think its hilarious everyone here pretending like psn does not do the things that i claimed. Just stop replying to me if you dont believe me i cant help you.



tiffac on 25 November 2014
keroncoward said:


Make what easy on myself? Im not going to search through google just to prove something most here already know. I cant remember specifics but Resistance 2 was to get shut down or already has been shut down for the servers to use on PS4. Funny thing is I read the news on this site. Also i think its hilarious everyone here pretending like psn does not do the things that i claimed. Just stop replying to me if you dont believe me i cant help you.

Hold on forum warrior, I ain't saying your lying but it would do you a world of good to put EVIDENCE on the table. Why continue a war of words when a simple PROOF can do your enemy in? Its simplicity at its finest. If you don't want to listen and have another forum warrior bust your claims appart then by all means continue. Basic common sense can do you a long way in defeating your rival.



Euphoria14 on 25 November 2014
keroncoward said:
tiffac said:

Just save everyone the trouble and post the dang thing. Not only it will prove you right but prove him wrong. Otherwise, you'll always be called out.

Make it easy for yourself.


Make what easy on myself? Im not going to search through google just to prove something most here already know. I cant remember specifics but Resistance 2 was to get shut down or already has been shut down for the servers to use on PS4. Funny thing is I read the news on this site. Also i think its hilarious everyone here pretending like psn does not do the things that i claimed. Just stop replying to me if you dont believe me i cant help you.

You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.

If you choose to not provide proof then you are indeed spreading FUD since you are refusing to back up your claims with the proof you claim to have.

This is how it works.



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RenCutypoison on 25 November 2014
The Fury said:
Sony Pictures? What's these hackers demands? "Make another Smurfs movies, or else"


Implying they are old enough to have seen the first movie, it's like PEGI 7

 

Edit : Also worst blackmail ever, making it public was the most stupid idea they ever had. Now Sony can't even hire them.



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method114 on 25 November 2014

Just save everyone the trouble and post the dang thing. Not only it will prove you right but prove him wrong. Otherwise, you'll always be called out.

Make it easy for yourself.


He wont prove me wrong because I never said he was lying. I simply said that people call him a troll because he's making a big claim about something that's hard to know/prove. When you do something like that and don't provide proof your going to be called a troll.

I've worked in Datacenters I've racked servers for all sorts of companies from porn websites to cloud services. So when someone comes in blaming servers for something like getting kicked off PSN it just sounds silly to me. Espicially when it's clear as day that the poster has no knowledge of IT and this issue could probably easily be resolved by taking a look at his router and making some configuration changes.



tiffac on 25 November 2014
method114 said:

Just save everyone the trouble and post the dang thing. Not only it will prove you right but prove him wrong. Otherwise, you'll always be called out.

Make it easy for yourself.


He wont prove me wrong because I never said he was lying. I simply said that people call him a troll because he's making a big claim about something that's hard to know/prove. When you do something like that and don't provide proof your going to be called a troll.

I've worked in Datacenters I've racked servers for all sorts of companies from porn websites to cloud services. So when someone comes in blaming servers for something like getting kicked off PSN it just sounds silly to me. Espicially when it's clear as day that the poster has no knowledge of IT and this issue could probably easily be resolved by taking a look at his router and making some configuration changes.

You are my hero right now. What were we talking about again?

Edit: Hay! The Strikethrough for the post didn't work. What gives?



JazzB1987 on 25 November 2014
Euphoria14 said:
keroncoward said:
tiffac said:

Just save everyone the trouble and post the dang thing. Not only it will prove you right but prove him wrong. Otherwise, you'll always be called out.

Make it easy for yourself.


Make what easy on myself? Im not going to search through google just to prove something most here already know. I cant remember specifics but Resistance 2 was to get shut down or already has been shut down for the servers to use on PS4. Funny thing is I read the news on this site. Also i think its hilarious everyone here pretending like psn does not do the things that i claimed. Just stop replying to me if you dont believe me i cant help you.

You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.

If you choose to not provide proof then you are indeed spreading FUD since you are refusing to back up your claims with the proof you claim to have.

This is how it works.

TBH Lets say I say something.  Why is it my job to deliver some evidence that supports my claim? You believe me?  Good for you. You dont ? Your problem. 
You want to know if I tell the truth go and investigate yourself. You dont care about what I say? Then ignore me.  Its as easy as that.

TBH if someone tells you something   he did more than was needed to enlighten you or give you something to think about etc.

I mean the "prove it" nonsense is the reason why 90% of people cant think for themselves. They want someone to do it for them. (or they accept anything as log as it is somewhat logica without considering that it might be bullshit at all)
And this is a normal forum/website. Just think about how empty it would be if everyone would need to have evidence for their claims.

"X is the best game ever. I enclosed a 1000 page document as evidence"  rofl :)






Euphoria14 on 25 November 2014
JazzB1987 said:

TBH Lets say I say something.  Why is it my job to deliver some evidence that supports my claim? You believe me?  Good for you. You dont ? Your problem. 
You want to know if I tell the truth go and investigate yourself. You dont care about what I say? Then ignore me.  Its as easy as that.

TBH if someone tells you something   he did more than was needed to enlighten you or give you something to think about etc.

I mean the "prove it" nonsense is the reason why 90% of people cant think for themselves. They want someone to do it for them. (or they accept anything as log as it is somewhat logica without considering that it might be bullshit at all)
And this is a normal forum/website. Just think about how empty it would be if everyone would need to have evidence for their claims.

"X is the best game ever. I enclosed a 1000 page document as evidence"  rofl :)

What a silly comparison.

Saying "X game is best ever" is subjective.

Claiming Sony servers are the same exact hardware from 2008 isn't.

 

So running into threads or comment sections on websites and throwing that around without any evidence to back it up is exactly why he got the reactions he did, and rightfully so.



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tiffac on 25 November 2014
JazzB1987 said:

TBH Lets say I say something.  Why is it my job to deliver some evidence that supports my claim? You believe me?  Good for you. You dont ? Your problem. 
You want to know if I tell the truth go and investigate yourself. You dont care about what I say? Then ignore me.  Its as easy as that.

TBH if someone tells you something   he did more than was needed to enlighten you or give you something to think about etc.

I mean the "prove it" nonsense is the reason why 90% of people cant think for themselves. They want someone to do it for them. (or they accept anything as log as it is somewhat logica without considering that it might be bullshit at all)
And this is a normal forum/website. Just think about how empty it would be if everyone would need to have evidence for their claims.

"X is the best game ever. I enclosed a 1000 page document as evidence"  rofl :)

Because someone is trying to disprove your claim.

So how can you prove your right and he is wrong, if you can't back it up?

Remember "what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence".

Its not about them being lazy but about you being right. That's why proof is vital in a debate. :)