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really?
I still dont believe that that trailer was from gameplay.
I will only believe when i see the gameplay.



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IsaqueNilton said:
It's easier to achieve 1080p30 than 720p60 so as the zelda games were always 30fps, I think it will be 1080p30 (Aonuma learnt how to do it with Wind Waker HD)


Nope it's not, 1080p requires 2.25X the pixels per frame compared to 720p, whereas 60FPS only requires 2X the frames within the same amount of time compared to 30FPS if a developer wants 60FPS over 30FPS it's much easier going 720p 60 compared to 1080p 30FPS.

1280X720 is 921,600 pixels per frame that's 27,648,000 pixels per second running a game at 30FPS, going for 2X that to hit 60FPS would mean rendering 55,296,000. 1920X1080 is 2,073,600 pixels per frame, running at 1080p 30FPS the hardware to render 62,208,000 pixels per second or 6,912,000 more pixels per second than trying to run the game at 720p 60FPS.



curl-6 said:
JustBeingReal said:
curl-6 said:

Zelda U will be 720p/30fps, I'm prepared to bet on it.

As for Far Cry 3 on 7th gen, that ran at a sub-HD resolution, and suffered from abundant screen tearing and framerate judder.

We'll see what happens I guess.

The comment on Far Cry was more to compare an open world title with IQ like that. I doubt Zelda would be sub-HD, suffer from tearing or judder, those things should be solid in the case of this game.

Nintendo doesn't do screen tearing or any of that rubbish, don't worry. 


I know, that's why I said "I doubt Zelda would be sub-HD, suffer from tearing or judder, those things should be solid in the case of this game." I'm sure Nintendo picked the Wii U's hardware partially because of the standard they can achieve with games like Zelda on the system or at least based on what Anouma and other core Nintendo teams requested Wii U to have, so yeah no screen tear or janky performance stuff like that within the determined Resolution and frame rate.



Pavolink said:

The same thing was said many times before. Remember Hyrule Warriors? A lot of people tell me Zelda team won't make anything and months later the same Nintendo confirmed their heavy involvement in that project. How many times does story needs to repeat for you to understand?

And I'm acting like someone who doesn't have a lot of time to play and wants to play real new games rather than paying again and again for the same games or useless spin offs that just delay the new ones.


So you have no idea what this involvement was, you have no idea what goes into development, and you have no real proof outside of your imagination? Gotcha.

Also, reused resources to make spinoff games is a brilliant strategy for Nintendo. The fact that Captain Toad is a complete game just a year after SM3DW, arguably the best Mario game to date from a technical point of view, is amazing.

Stop acting like a petulant child. Even if Nintendo were somehow stopping production and delaying Zelda U for these games, it'd be a necessary evil. If you want the game, the company has to make money, and they make money with these games. Unless you think the entirety of Nintendo should stop producing games until Zelda U is out and the sharholders will just chill as the company starts hemorrhaging money again, just so you can have a rushed Zelda title?



Pavolink said:
FUCK YOU AONUMA!
FUCK YOU NINTENDO!

Why can't you show us a real fucking trailer?!
Why to wait until E3?!

This basically confirms no 2015 release! You monkeys! Bastards! How can you be so incompetent?!


I can say the same first 2 word of your post to you.

 

I WANT TO SEE IT IN E3 AND NOW IT'S COMFIRMED"!!!!!!!



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Experimental42 said:


So you have no idea what this involvement was, you have no idea what goes into development, and you have no real proof outside of your imagination? Gotcha.

Also, reused resources to make spinoff games is a brilliant strategy for Nintendo. The fact that Captain Toad is a complete game just a year after SM3DW, arguably the best Mario game to date from a technical point of view, is amazing.

Stop acting like a petulant child. Even if Nintendo were somehow stopping production and delaying Zelda U for these games, it'd be a necessary evil. If you want the game, the company has to make money, and they make money with these games. Unless you think the entirety of Nintendo should stop producing games until Zelda U is out and the sharholders will just chill as the company starts hemorrhaging money again, just so you can have a rushed Zelda title?

Nintendo was involved and even developed some characters. Also, it's clear that you don't understand what is the meaning of reusing resources. Captain Toad is reusing resources from 3DWorld. Hyrule Warriors is not.

Anyway, I'm just a petulant child and you must not waste your precious time with me. Better go and praise Nintendo for everything wrong they do.



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Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

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tbone51 said:


 Aonuma oversaw the project thats it. Dont know why you think the team for Zelda U is stopping development for other games. Its all in your head.

You make it seem as if the game would come out 6months-1 year, or 2 years (watever you think) earlier if  Aonuma never helped with ALBW/HW/MM3D.

Calm down, overthinking things. I mean damn, lets just make nintendo give out longer hours and people work 7 days a week instead of 5 and have no life so you can have your game 3-6months earlier


You forgot to add the experimentation time in Skyward Sword, the change in artstyle, Ocarina of Time 3D and The Wind Waker HD. Yep, at least 1 year before without all those delays, hell, we could have another Zelda in between all time.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


WhiteEaglePL said:
Pavolink said:
FUCK YOU AONUMA!
FUCK YOU NINTENDO!

Why can't you show us a real fucking trailer?!
Why to wait until E3?!

This basically confirms no 2015 release! You monkeys! Bastards! How can you be so incompetent?!


I can say the same first 2 word of your post to you.

 

I WANT TO SEE IT IN E3 AND NOW IT'S COMFIRMED"!!!!!!!

Ah ok.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


tbone51 said:
curl-6 said:
kljesta64 said:

If we'd seen actual gameplay at this year's E3 I'd agree, but instead we got a cutscene. Nintendo have delayed so many games on Wii U it's not even funny, a game as huge as this one would be  especially vulnerable.


Many games delayed? What? How many games got delayed? (that actually were delayed, not a release window/etc)

~DK:TF by 2 months

~Pikmin 3 (suppose to release before June and i think after Feb, Released in July in Japan/August in the US)

~Xenoblade Chronicles X was suppose to be a 2014 title, this was a huge delay.

You're forgetting Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, and Kirby and Captain Toad in PAL.



curl-6 said:
tbone51 said:
curl-6 said:
kljesta64 said:

You're forgetting Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, and Kirby and Captain Toad in PAL.


1. Nobody cares abour WiiFitU+WiiPartyU (well maybe just the japanese)

2. Captain Toad is laughable as its a Jan 2nd release in Europe, i hardly call that delaying, especially with the "2014" release dates being close to US.

Anything else? Doesn't seem like a big deal at all.