| Ninsect said: They can always add "shortly" or "almost" in there and it will be true |
| Burek said: It's still too early to ship 20 million, but it's never too early to almost ship 20 million. |

| Ninsect said: They can always add "shortly" or "almost" in there and it will be true |
| Burek said: It's still too early to ship 20 million, but it's never too early to almost ship 20 million. |

Sony then announces they will shortly sells 20M, while closing to 100M and sales quadruple of Summer.

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
| OttoniBastos said: So 10 millions shipped?! is MS(and sony i supposed) overshipping to be prepared for Holiday season(black friday and xmas)? Because there is no way only 1 million consoles in stores shelves right now... in this case,how much do you guys think sony shipped? if i had to guess,~18,5 right now! |
Nope... shortly to ship... could mean at December ends or tomorrow (prior is more likely).

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
| DonFerrari said: Sony then announces they will shortly sells 20M, while closing to 100M and sales quadruple of Summer. |
You forgot PS3 and 360 will shortly sells 100m too.
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Burek said: It's still too early to ship 20 million, but it's never too early to almost ship 20 million.
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ethomaz said:
You forgot PS3 and 360 will shortly sells 100m too. |
While closing to 150M.

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
What do "shortly" or "approaching" even mean ?
1 week ? 1 month ? End of the year ?
This gives us no information whatsoever. That's like saying PS4 is approaching 20M : true statement, but far from real numbers.

| Ka-pi96 said:
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I think the interesting thing to note is that Vice President, Yusef Mehdi, uses "sold in to retailers" for their shipment numbers but does not specify that it is sold to consumers for a sentence that is the same paragraph with shipped numbers ("Xbox One sales in the US have more than tripled"). It would seem wise to be very specific that this is sold to consumers instead of to retailers.
Again I would also like to point out the phrase "Xbox One led generation 8 console sales in the US for the past two weeks". Are those sales to consumers or sales to retailers? It seems very plausible that they shipped three times as many consoles as compared to the previous week. Others have noted in this thread that the first week is from November 2nd to November 8th. The other week that Microsoft is talking about would be November 9th to November 11th...just 3 days?? Well with the point that I stated above, it seems plausible that they could be talking about shipped console sales in the US for the past two weeks and not sold to consumers. For it to be sold to consumers, then the second week would AT LEAST have to be finished through until the 15th.
Now I am not trying to downplay what Micrsoft has done. But I can't be the only one to raise an eyebrow when they state that the XB1 has outsold the competition for the past two weeks when the second week hasn't completed yet...
Thoughts?
Two things stand out on this that reek of spin.
1) shortly.
2) glossing over the fact that they're talking about what they intend to ship for the holiday period, hence 1.
Also worth noting, shipment numbers would have been heightened by the multiple bundles.