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Forums - Microsoft - Halo: MCC review thread! UPDATE: Reviews incoming - 87 metascore so far

walsufnir on 07 November 2014
ethomaz said:
walsufnir said:

A good reply to why reviewers and reviews are not in the best light currently:



Originally Posted by ekim

Maybe some reviewers think the gameplay isn't up to todays standards but then they knew that to expect and imho a game should be rated by how much it's meets your expectations.

That would imply that today's gameplay standards are ahead of what Halo had to offer back in 2001, which is sadly not the case.

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137749234&postcount=271


Just to be clear it was not ekim that said that... and REMEMBER CITADEL is not right about his claim... today gameplay standards are ahead what Halo showed back in 2001.

Anybody that played Titanfall for example (it is easy to compare because it is in the same plataform) will tell you that.

That is why both sentences have different formatting.
Totally different game while same genre so your comparison is off.



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Scientificreason on 07 November 2014
HyrulianScrolls said:
Scientificreason said:
There are technical issues reviews detail as well.. But ignore this. Reviews detail why it got the score it got.

Times change, standards change, different times different reviewers.

But a great game should last forever. Hence why Super Mario Bros, Ocarina of Time, FF6, Half Life, etc are all still considered amazing games today. I mean just look at the amazing reviews even the 3DS remake of OOT got all those years later.


87 is great. Old games she,  they are still considered great as in great for you here time. 



Headshot on 07 November 2014

I don't remember all those reviews criticizing how earlier MGS and GOW games felt dated when they were rereleased. Halo fans would be absolutely beserk if they changed and freshened up any gameplay in halo 1 and 2, I don't understand why it's a topic of negativity.



CosmicSex on 07 November 2014
walsufnir said:
CosmicSex said:
It should settle around between 83 and 85 which would put it around Forza level.


Why should it?

Why should it not?  It looks like a good package. And it seems to be following the track of Forza Horizon 2.  I sure don't think it will do less than that.   



walsufnir on 07 November 2014

Reviewers said:

Game Revolution:

- no Reach and ODST.
- Massive time sink. Pace yourself.
- I'm so f***ing tired of shooters.

Shacknews:

True to their nature, the older games are still hampered by their outdated saving system. Often I would have to jump back into the start of a mission I hadn't completed, rather than simply picking up progress where I left off at a checkpoint, because I had forgotten to save and quit out to the main menu. It will likely take modern gamers a few frustrating moments of missing progress to remind them of how to negotiate a system that sticks to its roots a little too much.

Metro.co.uk:

Cons: There’s always been a lot of repetition within the Halo games and this collection only helps to highlight that fact. Multiplayer inevitably feels old-fashioned and slow.

Lazygamer:

The core Halo games are already going to eat up plenty of your hours, but with a multiplayer section that has a stable netcode and perhaps too much content to tide players over, you might never emerge again to experience natural light. Clearly, Microsoft and 343 Industries want to make Gears of War a reality by actually creating the Locust.

Gamereactor Sweden:

Single-player feels dated but multiplayer is rock solid and you get 106 amazing levels.

 


Reviews in 2014... Not saying reviewers aren't allowed for their own opinion, of course.



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walsufnir on 07 November 2014
CosmicSex said:
walsufnir said:
CosmicSex said:
It should settle around between 83 and 85 which would put it around Forza level.


Why should it?

Why should it not?  It looks like a good package. And it seems to be following the track of Forza Horizon 2.  I sure don't think it will do less than that.   


We can expect it to be even a few points higher than this. Currently mc is leaving out a lot of reviews for whatever reason.



prinz_valium on 07 November 2014
Ka-pi96 said:
ethomaz said:

prinz_valium said:

god of war #94
god of war 2 #93
god of war 3 #92
god of war collection #91

 

and god of war collection was not a full remaster. only rmk

GoW collection have two games... GoW (2005) and GoW II (2007)... 94 and 93... when reviewed in 2009 (just four years after the first release) recieved 91 meta... the same collection reviewed in 2014 for Vita received 74 meta.

You are just showing to me how time matter to reviews old games... that is exactly my point.

Ever thought that maybe it only got a 74 for that one because... it's on Vita?

yes. a port on an handheld is really not compareable to an remake on a better console...
i just ask myself, what the halo collection would score on the x360. 82?
because if would be worse framerates, iq and 4 disks not one blu-ray



Headshot on 07 November 2014
ethomaz said:
Bail said:
I guess Halo's gameplay isn't as top-notch as it was when they released back in the 2000's. We're in 2014, standards change.
That may explain the differences with reviews of TLOU:R. Perharps you got your expectations too high. Don't get upset though, it'll sell good anyway.

The MCC is there and you can compare the evolution of the gameplay... you will see how Halo 3 and Halo 4 play way better and feel more fresh when compared with Halo and Halo 2.

I prefer Halo 3 over Halo 4 but in terms of gameplay Halo 4 is more fresh.

I would love to know how Halo 3 plays way better and feels more fresh than Halo 2. Halo 4 feels more fresh but the gameplay is still a lot worse than Halo: CE and 2.



ethomaz on 07 November 2014
Headshot said:
I don't remember all those reviews criticizing how earlier MGS and GOW games felt dated when they were rereleased. Halo fans would be absolutely beserk if they changed and freshened up any gameplay in halo 1 and 2, I don't understand why it's a topic of negativity.

Both collections scored lower than original... one of the biggest critics to MGS was how the gameplay feels dated and that was the focus in Ground Zeroes / The Phantom Pain.



CosmicSex on 07 November 2014
kowenicki said:
CosmicSex said:
It should settle around between 83 and 85 which would put it around Forza level.

 

why use forza?

85 will put it above Destiny (77), COD AW (83) & Ghosts (78) , Killzone (73), Metro Redux (84) etc etc as the second best rated FPS experience available in this gen so far.

86 wil match the best (Titanfall)

87 will make it the best.

No particular reason.  I just remember following the trends of FH2 when reviews hit and they seem very similar.  So, once all the reviews are tabulated, I think its should be somewhere in that region.   Its just an estimate really.  MetaCritic is a funny animal.