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Forums - Sales Discussion - Amazon US Monthly bestsellers tracking thread November - Updated 29/11 - GTAV bundle in at 17

vivster said:
Demesne said:
vivster said:

Do I really have to do this? No I don't. Look it up yourself.

Amazon monthly ratings predicted the correct winner of each month since last November. Even the month where X1 won. 12 correct samples in a row is not enough for you?

Not denying that, just pointing out the sales ratio on PS4 "win" months were not inline with amazon rankings.

While for Nov Its X1 PS4 PS4 X1 PS4 X1 on the rankings.  To an open logical mind amazon rankings really dont say much on who will get the ndp "win" for Nov.  its no where near as cut and dry as it was for other months.  

To put it bluntly, based of Amazon Nov rankings we know shit all who will "win" november.  

No one gives a shit about exact ratios. It's about trends. Amazon is showing the trends. Amazon has been showing the trends correctly for a year.

Yes, this time around there are multiple bundles which makes it more wonky but as a general rule(with any sales charts) we can assume that the higher the rankings, the bigger the absolute difference between them. So far we have X1 at #3 and PS4 at #17 and #20. It's not a stretch to assume that even both PS4s combined will not easily match the X1 on #3.

you might wanna hold off on the champagne about 24 hours just to be sure,  amazon is terribly inconsistent with how far behind the days lag, ive seen it take anywhere from 2 days to 5 days for it to post new results.  its easier to notice at the beginning of the month as you wait for any sales for that months charts to show up.   we have also only seen the gta bundle on the chart for a day.  Now they could have updated it with both thursdays numbers and fridays numbers, or thursdays sales werent enough to place it in the top 100 weekly( but that would be surprising)but there is also a chance the update was only thursdays numbers, leaving all of yesterday and today to be added.   Thats not to say it will change, your just a bit premature



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DD_Bwest said:
vivster said:
Demesne said:
vivster said:

Do I really have to do this? No I don't. Look it up yourself.

Amazon monthly ratings predicted the correct winner of each month since last November. Even the month where X1 won. 12 correct samples in a row is not enough for you?

Not denying that, just pointing out the sales ratio on PS4 "win" months were not inline with amazon rankings.

While for Nov Its X1 PS4 PS4 X1 PS4 X1 on the rankings.  To an open logical mind amazon rankings really dont say much on who will get the ndp "win" for Nov.  its no where near as cut and dry as it was for other months.  

To put it bluntly, based of Amazon Nov rankings we know shit all who will "win" november.  

No one gives a shit about exact ratios. It's about trends. Amazon is showing the trends. Amazon has been showing the trends correctly for a year.

Yes, this time around there are multiple bundles which makes it more wonky but as a general rule(with any sales charts) we can assume that the higher the rankings, the bigger the absolute difference between them. So far we have X1 at #3 and PS4 at #17 and #20. It's not a stretch to assume that even both PS4s combined will not easily match the X1 on #3.

you might wanna hold off on the champagne about 24 hours just to be sure,  amazon is terribly inconsistent with how far behind the days lag, ive seen it take anywhere from 2 days to 5 days for it to post new results.  its easier to notice at the beginning of the month as you wait for any sales for that months charts to show up.   we have also only seen the gta bundle on the chart for a day.  Now they could have updated it with both thursdays numbers and fridays numbers, or thursdays sales werent enough to place it in the top 100 weekly( but that would be surprising)but there is also a chance the update was only thursdays numbers, leaving all of yesterday and today to be added.   Thats not to say it will change, your just a bit premature

Well I'm not celebrating yet as I don't know any specifics. I'm just looking at the trends and preparing for the worst.

How would the monthly chart only include Thursday if it has the GTA bundle on #17?



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vivster said:
Demesne said:
vivster said:

Do I really have to do this? No I don't. Look it up yourself.

Amazon monthly ratings predicted the correct winner of each month since last November. Even the month where X1 won. 12 correct samples in a row is not enough for you?

Not denying that, just pointing out the sales ratio on PS4 "win" months were not inline with amazon rankings.

While for Nov Its X1 PS4 PS4 X1 PS4 X1 on the rankings.  To an open logical mind amazon rankings really dont say much on who will get the ndp "win" for Nov.  its no where near as cut and dry as it was for other months.  

To put it bluntly, based of Amazon Nov rankings we know shit all who will "win" november.  

No one gives a shit about exact ratios. It's about trends. Amazon is showing the trends. Amazon has been showing the trends correctly for a year.

Yes, this time around there are multiple bundles which makes it more wonky but as a general rule(with any sales charts) we can assume that the higher the rankings, the bigger the absolute difference between them. So far we have X1 at #3 and PS4 at #17 and #20. It's not a stretch to assume that even both PS4s combined will not easily match the X1 on #3.


And its just as easily assumed that the sale difference at this time between 1 and 20 could be as little as 5% given the musical chairs the top seller are playing indicating small sales differences in between them.  Which mean X1 top selling console could be getting badly out sold by the next to PS4 bundles put together.   For example X1 could be doing 100k giving it the top spot while the next two PS4s did 90k each.  We just dont know what it means.  Its just guesses leanig towards what ever side you are on.  

Aka we have no clue who will win based of amazon.  

Look at Oct, PS4 PS4 X1 X1 pretty decisive to Guess a PS4 "win"  based of it.  

But Nov X1 PS4 PS4 X1 PS4 X1 does not look in any way decisive to me.



Demesne said:


And its just as easily assumed that the sale difference at this time between 1 and 20 could be as little as 5% given the musical chairs the top seller are playing indicating small sales differences in between them.  Which mean X1 top selling console could be getting badly out sold by the next to PS4 bundles put together.   For example X1 could be doing 100k giving it the top spot while the next two PS4s did 90k each.  We just dont know what it means.  Its just guesses leanig towards what ever side you are on.  

Aka we have no clue who will win based of amazon.

Look at Oct, PS4 PS4 X1 X1 pretty decisive to Guess a PS4 "win"  based of it.

But Nov X1 PS4 PS4 X1 PS4 X1 does not look in any way decisive to me.

It looks to me if we take common ratios.

I tried to find any sales chart where #17 and #20 would add up to more than #3 but I couldn't find one.



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vivster said:
DD_Bwest said:

you might wanna hold off on the champagne about 24 hours just to be sure,  amazon is terribly inconsistent with how far behind the days lag, ive seen it take anywhere from 2 days to 5 days for it to post new results.  its easier to notice at the beginning of the month as you wait for any sales for that months charts to show up.   we have also only seen the gta bundle on the chart for a day.  Now they could have updated it with both thursdays numbers and fridays numbers, or thursdays sales werent enough to place it in the top 100 weekly( but that would be surprising)but there is also a chance the update was only thursdays numbers, leaving all of yesterday and today to be added.   Thats not to say it will change, your just a bit premature

Well I'm not celebrating yet as I don't know any specifics. I'm just looking at the trends and preparing for the worst.

How would the monthly chart only include Thursday if it has the GTA bundle on #20?

Sales would have to be at an unbelieveable level yes, and im not saying for sure they are, just amazon is so inconsistent with timing its way to hard to tell. Just giving you that warning just incase. How many times in sports have we seen someone running for an open touchdown, or shooting on an empty net from 10 feet away only to blow it lol  Heck i remember when one of my favorite race car drivers ran out of gas on the last corner of a race lol  never call it until its over



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vivster said:
Demesne said:


And its just as easily assumed that the sale difference at this time between 1 and 20 could be as little as 5% given the musical chairs the top seller are playing indicating small sales differences in between them.  Which mean X1 top selling console could be getting badly out sold by the next to PS4 bundles put together.   For example X1 could be doing 100k giving it the top spot while the next two PS4s did 90k each.  We just dont know what it means.  Its just guesses leanig towards what ever side you are on.  

Aka we have no clue who will win based of amazon.

Look at Oct, PS4 PS4 X1 X1 pretty decisive to Guess a PS4 "win"  based of it.

But Nov X1 PS4 PS4 X1 PS4 X1 does not look in any way decisive to me.

It looks to me if we take common ratios.

I tried to find any sales chart where #17 and #20 would add up to more than #3 but I couldn't find one.


Take whatever suits your arguemnt, but what common rations makes you thing they make sense for the uncommon sales crazy of the holidays ?



Demesne said:
vivster said:
Demesne said:


And its just as easily assumed that the sale difference at this time between 1 and 20 could be as little as 5% given the musical chairs the top seller are playing indicating small sales differences in between them.  Which mean X1 top selling console could be getting badly out sold by the next to PS4 bundles put together.   For example X1 could be doing 100k giving it the top spot while the next two PS4s did 90k each.  We just dont know what it means.  Its just guesses leanig towards what ever side you are on.  

Aka we have no clue who will win based of amazon.

Look at Oct, PS4 PS4 X1 X1 pretty decisive to Guess a PS4 "win"  based of it.

But Nov X1 PS4 PS4 X1 PS4 X1 does not look in any way decisive to me.

It looks to me if we take common ratios.

I tried to find any sales chart where #17 and #20 would add up to more than #3 but I couldn't find one.


Take whatever suits your arguemnt, but what common rations makes you thing they make sense for the uncommon sales crazy of the holidays ?

The ratios that even count on crazy sales days. As I told you I was struggling to find any sales chart that would contradict common ratios. Meaning the absolute differences increase the higher the ranking and that apparently a ranking of #17 and #20 will never add up to something higher than #3.

Find me a sales chart that contradicts that pattern and I might reconsider.



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DD_Bwest said:
vivster said:
DD_Bwest said:
 

you might wanna hold off on the champagne about 24 hours just to be sure,  amazon is terribly inconsistent with how far behind the days lag, ive seen it take anywhere from 2 days to 5 days for it to post new results.  its easier to notice at the beginning of the month as you wait for any sales for that months charts to show up.   we have also only seen the gta bundle on the chart for a day.  Now they could have updated it with both thursdays numbers and fridays numbers, or thursdays sales werent enough to place it in the top 100 weekly( but that would be surprising)but there is also a chance the update was only thursdays numbers, leaving all of yesterday and today to be added.   Thats not to say it will change, your just a bit premature

Well I'm not celebrating yet as I don't know any specifics. I'm just looking at the trends and preparing for the worst.

How would the monthly chart only include Thursday if it has the GTA bundle on #20?

Sales would have to be at an unbelieveable level yes, and im not saying for sure they are, just amazon is so inconsistent with timing its way to hard to tell. Just giving you that warning just incase. How many times in sports have we seen someone running for an open touchdown, or shooting on an empty net from 10 feet away only to blow it lol  Heck i remember when one of my favorite race car drivers ran out of gas on the last corner of a race lol  never call it until its over

Maybe I'm just pumping myself up for an Xbox win so that the PS4 win will be all the sweeter.

You know at this point I can't lose anymore. If X1 wins I will have prediction superiority, if PS4 wins I will have even greater fun.



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vivster said:
DD_Bwest said:

Sales would have to be at an unbelieveable level yes, and im not saying for sure they are, just amazon is so inconsistent with timing its way to hard to tell. Just giving you that warning just incase. How many times in sports have we seen someone running for an open touchdown, or shooting on an empty net from 10 feet away only to blow it lol  Heck i remember when one of my favorite race car drivers ran out of gas on the last corner of a race lol  never call it until its over

Maybe I'm just pumping myself up for an Xbox win so that the PS4 win will be all the sweeter.

You know at this point I can't lose anymore. If X1 wins I will have prediction superiority, if PS4 wins I will have even greater fun.


i dont expect a ps4 win, but itll be cool if it happens lol shit would go crazy

but i do think the win will be rather small when you look at things, maybe a couple hunded k tops. and the ps4 should probably take dec.  the thing is though, it cost ALOT.  the sales were insane and even the 330 +1.5 games they must be losing a lot. i wonder if they will be willing to keep prices this low to compete in the new year.



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"Hes the clown that makes the dark side fun.. Torgo!"

Ha.. i won my bet, but i wasnt around to gloat because im on a better forum!  See ya guys on Viz

Quite amazing to see the AC Bundle hold so strong for the entire month, also seems to be good sales for MCC :).