psrock said:
colafitte said:
psrock said:
Now I'm using VGC numbers but according to them, PS3 in 2009 sold almost 4 mill in December alone. That was the number I was referring to. Wii sold more than 4m only in December 2007 too according to the same source, and 2008, 2009 and 2010 were even more stronger.
If Sony is counting from BF week, it seems PS4 should have sold "only" around 3-3'5m in December. That's why I made the 20m sold prediction and why i'm disappointed.
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2009 was the price cut year I believe when the PS3 became $299. And we only know shipments numbers really.
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Well, you asked when PS3 sold that good, and I give you the numbers VGC showed. For your interest, VGC shows around 3'5 mill PS3 sold in 2010 and 2011 too. They're stillbetter numbers that the ones VGC will show for PS4 in December 2014.
Edit: And by VGC numbers too, X360 sold 4 million each December of 2010 and 2011. I expected PS4 to put into shame both consoles this December and was the opposite.
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You are using numbers 4 years into the Gen after new consoles and price drop had happenned. Look at 2006 and 2007 numbers, only Wii putting any such kind of numbers. A year from now, $299 PS4, you think numbers won't be higher.
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I first compared December 2007 Wii numbers, the perfect comparison with December 2014 PS4 numbers, but I was using PS3 and X360 2009-2011 numbers too, because through Jan-Oct those consoles had similar, even lower sales, but still sold a lot more in Nov-Dec than PS4 this year. The fact that those consoles were 4 years into the gen didn't affect PS4 sales during Jan-Oct, so why should have affected during Nov-Dec??? You can say in 2009 ps3 had the slim version but what about 2010 and 2011?. That's my point.
Sony underdelivered during this period in my opinion based on PS4 sales before November, compared to direct rivals in similar situations. If PS4 was over Wii sales before October (shipment sales, at least) during the same timeframe I expected at least similar numbers at the end of 2014, but what we have is PS4 around 1-1'5 m less than Wii in the same period. That's a lot I was not expecting.
Of course PS4 will sell a lot more in future holiday seasons when they drop the price to 300$, at least, and maybe that's what avoided PS4 to reach more than 4 mill sold in December this year like Wii did in 2007. Price is a huge factor during November and December, and after what XBO has done in USA just with pricecuts, PS4 can do wonders at 300$ next year. We'll see then....