Giggs_11 said:
It's called reasoning an debating over a topic. You should try it some time, makes people smarter. |
Reasoning, right. Because reason is what's going on in this thread.
Which company will have better results come fiscal year end in 2015? | |||
Sony | 88 | 20.00% | |
Microsoft | 82 | 18.64% | |
Nintendo | 225 | 51.14% | |
Ouya | 45 | 10.23% | |
Total: | 440 |
Giggs_11 said:
It's called reasoning an debating over a topic. You should try it some time, makes people smarter. |
Reasoning, right. Because reason is what's going on in this thread.
small44 said:
How do you know Uncharted 4 is worst then Uncharted 1 and 2 it's an opinion anyway not everybody think Uncharted 3 is worst then Uncharted 1 and 2. And it look like it's been a long time since you didn't see Unchated 3 total sale cause Uncharted 3 already outsold Uncharted 2. I never said uc4 is guarenteed to sell 10m but still possible ,you said Unchated 4 will sell 5 millions max in your previous post Uncharted 4 will definitly do that number it will sell 5 millionx min not max |
I know UC3 isn't as good because I've played them. I have some 100 hours on uc2 multiplayer, and I've platinum'd it. It's an excellent game. UC3 isn't nearly as good.
And don't assume things about me. I know facts before I start talking:
1 | Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception | PS3 | 2011 | Action | Sony Computer Entertainment | 2.65 | 2.63 | 0.19 | 1.04 | 6.50 |
2 | Uncharted 2: Among Thieves | PS3 | 2009 | Action | Sony Computer Entertainment | 3.18 | 2.10 | 0.21 | 0.96 | 6.46 |
Our numbers have it as only 40k more sales. With digital, it's probably maybe 500k higher but not by that much.
Look.
UC4 needs to sell to 1 in 4 ps4 owners to reach 5m. That's a huge attach rate. It really is. I'm not just pulling shit out of a hat here. destiny is 1 in 4, but is going to be more like 1-5 to 1-6 by the end of holiday. It also had like a billion in marketing, exclusive content, and is made by a ms traitor bungie, on top of the hype. Destiny had everything going for it.
UC4 while a brilliant, and celebrated franchise, just won't be able to match what destiny had. It will probably outsell destiny on ps4, but it won't have that attach rate. It'll be 2-3m at release, then maybe, if it's lucky, 6m by next xmas. One thing that this UC does have in its favor though is that there aren't a huge number of must-haves for ps4. If UC4 manages to fit the space, it could sell more than 5-6m.
HylianSwordsman said:
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People are here debating over a single topic: who do you believe will have better results at the end of fiscal year. Seeing there only 3 options (Ouya was meant has a joke btw) I'm wiling to bet a few people will have reason.
Btw reasoning, as a verb, means "the process of forming conclusions, judgments, or inferences from facts or premises.", not that you're right.
Anyway, you're in forum from a site that follows hardware and software sales, yet you judge who debate over this kind of subject. My question is, what you doing here?
theprof00 said:
I know UC3 isn't as good because I've played them. I have some 100 hours on uc2 multiplayer, and I've platinum'd it. It's an excellent game. UC3 isn't nearly as good. And don't assume things about me. I know facts before I start talking:
Our numbers have it as only 40k more sales. With digital, it's probably maybe 500k higher but not by that much. Look. UC4 while a brilliant, and celebrated franchise, just won't be able to match what destiny had. It will probably outsell destiny on ps4, but it won't have that attach rate. It'll be 2-3m at release, then maybe, if it's lucky, 6m by next xmas. One thing that this UC does have in its favor though is that there aren't a huge number of must-haves for ps4. If UC4 manages to fit the space, it could sell more than 5-6m.
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Not everybody have the same opinion as you it's not because you find it worse then previous one that eveybody think it's worse then previous one.
Uncharted 2 sold 6.54 in 5 years 2009-2014 uncharted3 in 3 years so the gap will still growing you said uncharted 3 sold less then uncharted 2 it dosn't matter if Uncharted 3 sold only 40k more then Uncharted 2 you still wrong.
Uncharted is a leggy game so install base is not a probem the first Uncharted still sold 77k after 7 years it's huge Uncharted 4 will have good legs too ,plus ps4 install base growing fast it's will sell 5 millions min and time will prove that
PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m
Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m
Nintendo wins in profit
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theprof00 said:
Try harder? Do you know me? I'm a huge playstation guy, but I'm also realistic. Ok, so I was wrong about ps4 profit on hardware. My bad. LBP2 sold 3m, LBP1 5m. Let's just say 4m for this one. And now the new 3ds which is 18900 yen, same price as a bundled 3ds, and huge sales this past week in japan. Yes, ps4 makes good money on third party, but can they outperform ~30m copies of just two games making 30$ profit margin each. That's almost a billion$ alone. |
A decent chunk of SSB3DS sales were last quarter. Do you really think SSB 3DS will sell 8 million THIS QUARTER alone? All the numbers I gave were probable numbers for this quarter alone, and SSB 3DS won't get sell 8 million in oct/nov/dec alone. Not even close. Neither will Pokemon. And you can't be serious about the 3DS selling 7 million this quarter, have you seen shipments? It's down a lot YoY, and it's already behind in weekly sales in Japan compared to the same weeks last year despite the N3DS AND MH4G just launching.
We both know that SSB U won't sell 13 million this q alone. More like 3-4.
To answer your question, yes it can. Quite easily.
Nintendos profit was all from interest income and exchange rate- Nintendos operating profit (ie games division) was about $2 million
Giggs_11 said: People are here debating over a single topic: who do you believe will have better results at the end of fiscal year. Seeing there only 3 options (Ouya was meant has a joke btw) I'm wiling to bet a few people will have reason. Btw reasoning, as a verb, means "the process of forming conclusions, judgments, or inferences from facts or premises.", not that you're right. Anyway, you're in forum from a site that follows hardware and software sales, yet you judge who debate over this kind of subject. My question is, what you doing here? |
Ah, I see. I was more referring to the people who were trying to say why Nintendo Q2 profits were higher than Sony gaming, talking like they had the definitive answer as to why it happened, when it's all speculation and always will be. I wasn't referring to the people who were talking about who will sell more at the end of the fiscal year, a question with a definitive answer that will be revealed eventually.
AkiseAru said: I thought Nintendo was doomed with the Wii U, lmao :DDD |
The 3Ds has a lot more to do with their profitability than the wii U. It is the same for handhelds for all the gens except for the last one with the Wii.