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Antoin Rezko or Louis farrakhan or Gayle King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



 

 

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I would LOVE to see an Obama-Russ Feingold ticket. But, sadly, it's never going to happen. :(



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

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One thing a lot of people miss is that Obhama has to maintain as balanced of a ticket as he possibly can. If Obhama pairs himself with someone who is as liberal as he is, he will put himself in a position where he has given up the middle ground and left the moderate (and independant) voters open for McCain; at this point I would expect McCain to partner himself with someone much more conservative than himself in order to capture the conservatives and fight for the moderate (and independant) voters in this situation.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Kasz216 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
APolitical, I think your gay for Obama. I just wish he would take stances on the issues, and wasn't a wishy washy politician, who is afraid of change, because it would make him lose votes.

Honestly, if Barrack wasn't so charasmatic, no matter how many people didn't want to vote republican, Hilary would have won, and there is no way Hilary could beat McCain in a general election, that's just lunacy.

Obama may be a wishywashy mess of a candidate that's only getting elected because he speaks well and looks good, but he's the best thing that happened to the democratic party since Bill Clintons pre-sex scandal years.

Without him, the Democrats couldn't find anyone to beat McCain. Hilary is already tracking below McCain nationally, and John Edwards? Everybody hates John, short of far left loons, and whoever was running against him would win by the largest landslide in this nations history.

Also, Avinash, McCain is the only candidate that has crossed the isle in this election, Obama certainly won't, he's as far left as a candidate can get, and still be viable.

McCain however is corrupt and ignorant, in theis period when we are heading into an economic crisis I don't want a guy who is more interested in starting more wars and bowing to lobbyists


Yet Obama hasn't agreed to take up the challenge for public financing only. Obama says he'd bomb terrorists in soverign nations without said nations approval. You don't think that would start up some problems?

As usual your views are so biased to one side you do both sides discredit by not actually paying any real attention to them.

Instead just finding the few bits that support your point of view and running with them.


Incorrect, Obama stated that he wanted to meet with McCain to disicuss campaign finance for the general elcection once he is the nominee, if he doesn't McCain will trot out all the 527's to try and swift-boat Obama, Obama is playing it smarter than kerry did, on the other hand McCain is currently trying to weasel his way out of public funds in spite of the fact that he used the promise of public funds in oreder to obtain a loan when his campaign was cash strapped

Obama only said he would chase Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan if Pakistan doesn't do anything about it, and that if Al-Qaeda formsa a base in iraq he may choose to act agsint them, first off history shows that once America leaves Iraq, Al-Qaeda's power will be lost and they'll be thrown out by the Iraqi people. As for Pakistan, well that's where we should have had our focus on first, not Iraq, and it would not be a full scale occupation like Iraq, as we would only need special forces to track Osama. Mccain on the other hand wants to maintain a long term prescense in iraq, and wants to expand into Iran, ignoring that neither Iraq nor Iran had anything to do with 9/11, and are not threats to the US.

 

Sorry but i'm not being biased, its just the Obama's stances are better than Mccain's overall

 

 


Iran isn't a threat to the US? Seriously? Have you listened to Iran's leader? Have you ignored the fact that even the UN realizes their nuclear program is up to no good. Have you noticed he's crazy enough to use nuclear weapons even if it means mass suicide?

Also, how is pulling out of Iraq and letting mass civil war and chaos reign free in Iraq a good idea? Sure it's good for us... Don't you think we kinda owe them for fucking up their country even worse though?  If they wanted us to leave we'd be gone.  



They don't have nukes,, in fact the recent intelligence report says that they show no signs of being anywhere near having nukes Pakistan on the other hand does, and has state sposored terrorism, and we have evidence that they have been harboring Osama, and it was Pakistanis, not Iranians or Iraqis on the 9/11 planes

Iraq should have never existed in the first place, as it was cobbled together by the british, if Bush was smart he'd take the partition route and then we could leave without fear of civil war, we can't hold the country together forever, we have our own problems to deal with, it may be callous, but its the reality of the situation that its in our best interest to leave



 

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Avinash_Tyagi said:
They don't have nukes, Pakistan on the other hand does, and has stae sposored terrorism

Iraq should have never existed in the first place, if Bush was smart he'd take the partition route and then we could leave without fear of civil war, we can't hold the country together forever, we have our own problems to deal with, it may be callous, but its the reality of the situation that its in our best interest to leave

Not currently. They are well on there way though. Even the UN is planning sanctions. We have our own problems but we caused their problems. We owe them. To do otherwise is to show no personal responsibility as a country.

Foreign countries will respect us even less if we pull out and leave their country to tear themselves apart. No one could take us seriously anymore and just expect us to go in, fuck everything up change administrations and say "fuck you guys we're out. That was the other party, it's not our fault anymore."

That's the difference. Mccain was a huge critic of Iraq as we were screwing it up. However he thinks when you fuck up something it's your job to fix it no matter what it costs you. I don't understand how someone can disagree with that.



They are years away from having nukes, at least half a decade if not more, and they have shown no signs of starting up thier program again. That is the difference, they are not a threat and we should not be worried about them

So? We caused their problems, so sorry, but that's not our problem anymore they are not going to turn into some functioning country any time soon if ever and we don't have the luxury pf waiting for that day.

They don't respect us now, and they will respect us more if they see that we are not the country that interferes where we shouldn't, invading Iran, and maintaining a permanent prescense in iraq will not win us any respect.

 It is insanity to try the same thing over and over and expect a different result, sorry, but this Iraq conflict is a failure, the smart thing to do is to know when you've failed and to cut your losses



 

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How are they years away from having nukes?



"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.


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Have you been paying attention at all?

ran halted work toward a nuclear weapon under international scrutiny in 2003 and is unlikely to be able to produce enough enriched uranium for a bomb until 2010 to 2015, a U.S. intelligence report says.

Sorry but that is years away from just enriching uranium, Nukes are even further

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/03/iran.nuclear/index.html



 

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Right so they couldn't possibly get anything from Russia.



"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.


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