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Ka-pi96 said:
chapset said:
Ka-pi96 said:
chapset said:

I masturbate to her, maybe she'll give birth to the next jesus, then I'll be half god

Dude.... wtf?

It's my statue I bought it so I can do whatever I want with it. Don't judge me. A man can dream

Fair enough.

Just would have thought there would be other statues you'd rather be doing that too?

No women ever will posses the beauty of the mother of god, she deserve all my hardest attention



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Immersiveunreality said:
chapset said:
Ka-pi96 said:
chapset said:

I masturbate to her, maybe she'll give birth to the next jesus, then I'll be half god

Dude.... wtf?

It's my statue I bought it so I can do whatever I want with it. Don't judge me. A man can dream


And does the statue cry blood when you do that ?

Wtf you sick? I don't do some fucking voodoo shit in front of her, she has to be respected and loved



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WagnerPaiva said:
Leadified said:
WagnerPaiva said:

Darwinism is a belief, it is based in the mistery religions gnosticism and, in a deeper inspection, is a refined form of the first lie Satan told: You can be as gods. Meaning, we can evolve, the creation is not perfect.


"Darwinism" is not based in any religious idea. The Theory of Evolution is based around the same principles as any scientific theory , you can test a scientific theory, observation, reproducibility. If you do not believe in Evolution then you should also not believe in General Relativity, the Buoyancy Principle, The Laws of Thermodynamics, Netwon's Laws of Motion, The Theory of Gravity, and etc.

By the by, Daniel 4:10-11 implies the Earth is flat, therefore....?

I am also curious how evolution somehow allows a species to become "gods". We will always have limited knowledge as indiviuals, we will always be mortal and without tools humans don't even stand a chance against animals like wolves or bears. Evolution has been going on even since life has been on Earth, which is a few billion years, yet in that time there are still no godly species.

The prophet Isaiah lived 700 years befor Jesus Christ and 100 years before Daniel. Through him, God said:

{It is} he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof {are} as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: {It is...: or, Him that}

Isaiah 40:22

So, he said the earth is a sphere.

Also, you have been deceived, here is what the passage you mentioned says:

On my bed I saw a vision: there was a tree in the middle of the earth, and it was very high.
And the tree became tall and strong, stretching up to heaven, and to be seen from the ends of the earth:

Daniel 4:10-11

So, no flat Earth whatsoever. Ends of Earth is a common expression we use to this day in many languages, do not mean flat...

By the way, Daniel is talking about A VISION in his bed, a dream. So, the vision is a alegory, as we all know, the tree is the coming reign of Jesus Christ.

By the way, the flat Earth is a RCC concept borrowed from mistery cults of demons (pagan gods). The RCC made a sport of killing real christians during these 2 thousand years. Most of the people burned in the stakes were burned with their bibles around their necks. So, do not use the RCC creeds agains real christianity. Not christians, cause I do believe there are catholics that love God above all things.

Also, it is a very noble thing to seek truth, but it is a very evil thing to seek reasons to not believe.

What do you seek? The truth? Even if the truth is God and Jesus?

Or are you willing to acept any explanation that helps you in your scape from God and Jesus? If that, think about what you are doing spreading these lies. If you are right, then it is ok. If you are wrong, you are driving a lot of people to doom.

If I am wrong, then it is ok. But if I am right, them I am helping to show a lot of people the way to be saved.


You're cherry picking. Truth is, the bible contains a ton of things, and some of them are bound to be true. In addition to that, the Bible is inconsistent, and often contradicts itself.

 

And the fact that you ignore evolution amases me. Evolution has been OBSERVED. Wether you choose to ignore that or not is your choice, but evolution is a fact.



WagnerPaiva said:
Immersiveunreality said:

 

Isaiah 40:22

So, he said the earth is a sphere.

Also, you have been deceived, here is what the passage you mentioned says:

On my bed I saw a vision: there was a tree in the middle of the earth, and it was very high.
And the tree became tall and strong, stretching up to heaven, and to be seen from the ends of the earth:

 


Those wordings do not imply that the earth is a sphere as a flat disk can have a center/middle too.And history has shown us that most religious people were against thinking the earth might be a sphere so did they all misinterpretate those words ?

Are you kidding me? it was him that cited this passage, I was just showing it was not clear that it was saying the earth is flat. Also, this passage is about a dream.

My passage, that states the Earth is round is this:

{It is} he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof {are} as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: {It is...: or, Him that}

Isaiah 40:22

 

This was also written 100 years before Daniel. Also, Daniel was a dreamer of dreams. Meaning, he was a prophet that always had visions through alegoric scenes God showed him revealing the future, like Joseph.


Nope srry i still cant see them describing the earth as a globe in that and i would never interpreted it that way.Circle is not a globe and a tent can be spread above a flat circle too .

I hope im not offending you with telling my thoughts about it as it really isnt my intention.



Teeqoz said:
WagnerPaiva said:


You're cherry picking. Truth is, the bible contains a ton of things, and some of them are bound to be true. In addition to that, the Bible is inconsistent, and often contradicts itself.

 

And the fact that you ignore evolution amases me. Evolution has been OBSERVED. Wether you choose to ignore that or not is your choice, but evolution is a fact.

No way, evolution is religion. Proof is fabricated and also cherry picked. Fossiles do not need millions of years to form, they can form in months. Carbon dating do not work cause the decay is not uniform. There was a Great Flood that formed the fossiles, the Grand Canyon and pretty much explains 99% of all answered questions of science.

Evolution is religion, it is a desesperate atempt to run away from the Creator, nothing else.

Evolutionists gather bones and create fairy tales, write thick books and people say it is science.

The changes in population are not evolution, no pigeon will turn into a eagle or a elephant. Mutants are not evolutions. A man born with three arms is not evolution, it is a variant. The environment can cause mutations? Sure, Hiroshima kids were born with no legs or eyes, but these are aberrations, not evolutions.



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chapset said:
Immersiveunreality said:
chapset said:
Ka-pi96 said:
chapset said:

I masturbate to her, maybe she'll give birth to the next jesus, then I'll be half god

Dude.... wtf?

It's my statue I bought it so I can do whatever I want with it. Don't judge me. A man can dream


And does the statue cry blood when you do that ?

Wtf you sick? I don't do some fucking voodoo shit in front of her, she has to be respected and loved


Uhm never heard of the bleeding eye statues ? Its called a miracle in christianity and is pretty far away from voodoo :p



Nintentacle said:
Ka-pi96 said:
So... is there going to be one of these threads for every religion now?

Not for a few branches of Christianity and probably none for Atheism (I know It's not a religion, technically, but lack of belief is a belief!), except possibly the people who believe Darwinism.

#1 Bold: No. Just no. Does lacking the understanding of calculus mean you understand calculus? Does a dog lacking the ability to see the color red mean it can see red? Does your laptop lacking internet in some remote area mean it has internet? No to all these? Then how is "lack of belief" a "belief"? Ever heard of the law of noncontradiction? "A" cannot be "Not A" in the same sense, at the same time. 

#2 Your OP and this whole series of posts you're making: you cannot "expose" any religion to people who believe it. It'll get spun away to make it seem like you're either "taking things out of context" or "you just don't understand since you don't believe it". Just look at a prior post, talking about it "all being predicted". The "facebook self loving generation and the lovers of pleasure". Oh wow, people are self centered and enjoy pleasurable things. Such a divine prediction, it must be holy. I predict right now that a war will happen in the future. Sure, there has always been war before hand (much like people being self centered and lovers of pleasure) but I'm predicting it, therefore I'm divine. See? That's stuff you can't sway from people who take that stuff seriously. Secondly, find anything "bad" in any religion in order to "expose" it and, again, it'll be spun away. It happened in your Islam thread (I know you've made a bunch, but that is the only other one I've seen) and it's happening here. Hell, people are even flat out saying that Catholicism isn't Christianity at all (I'd like to see what Catholics think about that)



WagnerPaiva said:
Teeqoz said:
WagnerPaiva said:


You're cherry picking. Truth is, the bible contains a ton of things, and some of them are bound to be true. In addition to that, the Bible is inconsistent, and often contradicts itself.

 

And the fact that you ignore evolution amases me. Evolution has been OBSERVED. Wether you choose to ignore that or not is your choice, but evolution is a fact.

No way, evolution is religion. Proof is fabricated and also cherry picked. Fossiles do not need millions of years to form, they can form in months. Carbon dating do not work cause the decay is not uniform. There was a Great Flood that formed the fossiles, the Grand Canyon and pretty much explains 99% of all answered questions of science.

Evolution is religion, it is a desesperate atempt to run away from the Creator, nothing else.

Evolutionists gather bones and create fairy tales, write thick books and people say it is science.

The changes in population are not evolution, no pigeon will turn into a eagle or a elephant. Mutants are not evolutions. A man born with three arms is not evolution, it is a variant. The environment can cause mutations? Sure, Hiroshima kids were born with no legs or eyes, but these are aberrations, not evolutions.

You clearly do not understand evolution.

The very definition of evolution is a change in the population. You cannot assert evolution....isn't evolution and then go about your day. That'd be like saying "Holding a door opening and asking how someone's day is isn't courtesy". And species aren't pokemon, dude. A huge change isn't going to instantly happen and a pigeon turning into an elephant would disprove evolution.

And lastly, it's funny that you call it a fairy tale, but talking snakes, global floods, then repopulation via incestuous sex within one family, walking on water, coming back from being dead, etc is believable to you. But I guarantee you if I, BMaker11, demonstrated any of that directly in front of you, you wouldn't believe it, you'd say it was a "magic trick", and that I was deceiving you. Me being "God" would be completely out of the question. But you believe the translation after translation after translation of various manuscripts from multiple anonymous authors from over 2000 years ago, with no question whatsoever. 

Whatever floats your boat, bud



WagnerPaiva said:

The prophet Isaiah lived 700 years befor Jesus Christ and 100 years before Daniel. Through him, God said:

{It is} he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof {are} as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: {It is...: or, Him that}

Isaiah 40:22

So, he said the earth is a sphere.

Also, you have been deceived, here is what the passage you mentioned says:

On my bed I saw a vision: there was a tree in the middle of the earth, and it was very high.
And the tree became tall and strong, stretching up to heaven, and to be seen from the ends of the earth:

Daniel 4:10-11

So, no flat Earth whatsoever. Ends of Earth is a common expression we use to this day in many languages, do not mean flat...

By the way, Daniel is talking about A VISION in his bed, a dream. So, the vision is a alegory, as we all know, the tree is the coming reign of Jesus Christ.

By the way, the flat Earth is a RCC concept borrowed from mistery cults of demons (pagan gods). The RCC made a sport of killing real christians during these 2 thousand years. Most of the people burned in the stakes were burned with their bibles around their necks. So, do not use the RCC creeds agains real christianity. Not christians, cause I do believe there are catholics that love God above all things.

Also, it is a very noble thing to seek truth, but it is a very evil thing to seek reasons to not believe.

What do you seek? The truth? Even if the truth is God and Jesus?

Or are you willing to acept any explanation that helps you in your scape from God and Jesus? If that, think about what you are doing spreading these lies. If you are right, then it is ok. If you are wrong, you are driving a lot of people to doom.

If I am wrong, then it is ok. But if I am right, them I am helping to show a lot of people the way to be saved.

 


Circle =/= sphere. A circle is a 2D object while a sphere is a 3D object, ironically Earth isn't a sphere anyways. That's a pretty severe mistake to make. God must have a very oddly shaped tent for this occasion. Your image, the points for a few are not quite correct and others are a very generous interpertation, which that specific interpertation exists only after science has proved things like atoms exist (by the way, atoms are not invisible), funny ain't it?

The Ends of the Earth is a common expression? Where? That expression makes absolutely no sense considering location is relative, what is the ends of the earth to someone living in China and one living in Rome? If anything, the only times I see that phrase is a cheesy tagline for a movie or some news article about Jennifer Lawrence. By the way guess who is famous for proving the Earth is a spherical object? Pythagoras, who was a pagan.

The Roman Catholic Church is indeed gulity of many crimes but so are other Christains, Orthodoxs? Read what they have done in Russia in the past? Protestants? Read a bit of American history. I don't want to sound like I am targetting Christains exclusively because every single worldview and religion have blood on their hands in some form or another, some maybe more than others.

You believe that I am trying to find out some sort of truth. Truth of... what exactly? What happens after death? I could care less what happens after death, as far as I am concerned that's it. Chances are this is our only shot at life, and my life is build around reason, of living a good life for myself and the people I affect, not to spoil and destory our Earth as others have done, to love my friends and family, never to hurt others for my own personal and never to betray the good people in my life. These are my morals, what I live by. I don't impose my morals on other people, I don't tell them they have to follow my way of life or burn in eternal hell. If your God does not like that, or well he is not worth me anyways. Not all Christain sects agree on the concept of the afterlife nevermind the Jews disagree if there is an afterlife at all. And all the other religions with various afterlifes and all that, if you want to go on probably alone then chances are we're both wrong. But because we haven't found any souls or anything to suggest something happens after you die, therefore I find it a safe bet to make.

I don't tell you not to be a Christain, you say quite a few radical things, which also touch personally. And I am curious why you believe these things, what is your justification for the things that you have said in this thread, so far your answers have been quite unsatisfactory. I disagree and I do think you need to be educated on scientific topics but I do not insult you by calling you a liar and I don't care what religion or lack of religion you are. I will not judge you unless you judge me, and I do have the impression you do not tolerate my beliefs and my way of life.

"Or are you willing to acept any explanation that helps you in your scape from God and Jesus?" This would only make sense if there were an undeniable fact that Jesus and God acutally exist and are the way you believe in them, and also I am not insecure about what I belive in it's not like I spend my day searching around on the internet "Why God doesn't exist" or whatever, acutally the burdan of proof is on you. I do not hold that belief and doesn't does 6/7ths of the world either. Why don't you believe Mohammed is the true prophet? Why don't you believe that Japan was created by two Gods while out fishing? Why don't you believe Thor is the mighty protector of mankind? And so on and so on...

You sound like to be righteous and overall I would say from what I know of you, you seem like a decent person. But consider this, consider what the Bible says is to be righteous, consider that all the good people in your life which are not Christains, are going to hell. Consider that they will not change their mind because of what they think about the Bible and consider people who will b a certain way are forever going to be punished.



 

Carlin makes a well-reasoned argument.

 



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