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Aeolus451 on 02 April 2015
vivster said:
Aeolus451 said:

That's a bit much in my opinion.  This isn't a military school forum.

This is basic forum etiquette. I've been to a lot of forums in my life and I haven't seen a single one where the things I mentioned weren't frowned upon.

It's basic decency and makes the forum better for everyone. Especially regarding making threads. Due to the lax handling in these things people stopped giving a shit about putting any effort into the threads or posts they make. They just blindly post and the result is spam and chaos.

Etiquette and basic decency is not something you punish people for not following. Rules or not. Usually, just giving the poster some crap over it or some warning will suffice. I'm against any measure that = more needless bans over minor things. 



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gergroy on 02 April 2015
vivster said:
Suggestion:
Using the mod system to actually improve the quality of this forum.

- punish easily avoidable dupe threads
A thread is not a simple post and as such should be treated with as much effort as possible. If there is a thread that could've been easily avoided by a quick look into the appropriate forum section or "Latest Topcs" speak out a warning. Repeat offenders get banned.

- punish threads put into the wrong forum section
A really bad habit of some people which makes it harder to avoid dupe threads and is generally against normal forum etiquette. Warn repeat offenders, ban them if it gets too much.

- punish people for double posts
Another bad habit of some people and also against forum etiquette. This of course needs some nuance but there are some really obvious cases like people who post directly after their OP something that could've easily fit in the OP. For god's sake I just saw someone posting a thread and in the second post, put a single youtube link(not even embedded). Obvious spamming. Warn people and ban repeat offenders.

If possible in this forum replace "ban" with "taking away thread making rights".


None of those sound like something deserving of moderation... however, it is nice to see ideas of how to improve the forum so I will give you +1 anyway!



Smeags on 02 April 2015
RolStoppable said:
I have some issues with my latest moderation. I got banned for blatant flaming. Let's start with something basic.

Since the moderation note was "blatant flaming", it means that my case was one with no two ways about it. So why did it take the mod team more than ten hours from the time of the report to issue the ban?

Probably because we're tier 4 decision makers.

Or someone is purposfully stalling to get you out of the country.



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Smeags on 02 April 2015
RolStoppable said:

Smeags, while I called it a game in the PM, this isn't something that should be taken lightly. It reeks of incompetence if your team needs more than ten hours to come to a decision in a case that ends up with the label "blatant flaming". Something like that shouldn't take more than ten minutes.

True.

So you made the post the night, and were banned in the morning by Torillian, correct?



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Smeags on 02 April 2015
RolStoppable said:

Yes, I made the post late at evening (my timezone, could have been midnight already), I got reported soon after, but it wasn't until the next morning/noon that I got banned by Torillian. The first wall post in response to my ban didn't come in before late afternoon, so the time window between report and moderation could actually be as big as 15 hours.

Well, that's not very efficient. Most posts take an hour max (two hours if it's particularly complex) to decide upon. As you said, your post was pretty darn blatant. You should have been moderated that night for sure, and in doing so, a three day ban would have you here this time yesterday.

Is that what you're getting at? If so, then apologies for making you miss out on the "fun" of April Fools yesterday. At least the direct was good.



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Aeolus451 on 02 April 2015

That must of been some post to get you banned for it.



Smeags on 02 April 2015
RolStoppable said:

I'll offer you my explanation for this "inefficiency": The initial report was dismissed and deleted, and the moderation was issued due to a second report that came in much later.

Due to a site glitch I can't access previous reports in the system.

But what I've just been told, that seems to be the case. Anyways, we'll make sure that it doesn't happen again. Thanks for bringing it up Rol.



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TruckOSaurus on 02 April 2015

^^ I was able to get around the site glitch and Rol's assumption is right, the report was dismissed and the banning happened after another user reported the same post. We'll be checking in with the mod in question to see why the report was ignored.



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TruckOSaurus on 02 April 2015
RolStoppable said:
TruckOSaurus said:
^^ I was able to get around the site glitch and Rol's assumption is right, the report was dismissed and the banning happened after another user reported the same post. We'll be checking in with the mod in question to see why the report was ignored.

I'd say the report was ignored because the mod in question doesn't just give lip service to the community.

I'm afraid I don't follow you here...



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TruckOSaurus on 02 April 2015
RolStoppable said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I'm afraid I don't follow you here...

Well, who dismissed the report?

It was Mr Khan.



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