Oh yeah, and this is kind of funny.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=183262&page=1

Ubisoft flat out says it and fans the flames, now they say they don't want debate over it.

Maybe wrong thread to post this.

Just tell me straight, 'cause I haven't been bothered trawling through all the posts looking for the technological explanation. How does the AI/CPU thing gel with what I understand to be a GPU thing?

OT, it's always better to be a fan rather than a fanboy. It's a sign if immaturity that someone revels in wearing the fanboy label. It's a sign of maturity that someone renounces that characterisation and determines to be more levelheaded about their gaming preferences.

@Bold: No, that's not the problem.

@bold underline: that's the problem. PR idiocy.

@italics: a predictable reaction to a stupid statement. You can't say "CPU bottleneck" and ALSO say "same res and fps to stop debate" and not have people call bullshit on the former because of the latter. One is a technical limitation requiring compromise, the other is a deliberate decision for non-technical reasons. It was a guaranteed shitstorm as soon as the Ubisoft guy opened his mouth and said those words. 

And of course the reality is likely to be Ubisoft having a crap game engine that does not use console resources efficiently. That game better have friggin' out of this world AI or so help them the fanboy rage is going to be worse than it is now if the AI is just ordinary, or heaven forbid substandard.

Its okay. I never considered you a Playstation fanboy anyways.

The short version is that the GPU needs the CPU. If the GPU has to wait for the CPU because it is overtaxed it will not be able to run at full capacity. If there is a CPU bottleneck it doesn't matter if your computer is running a weak APU or a triple SLI Titan. You can't produce faster if there is no raw material to work with. Which is the stuff that the CPU is providing.

The juicy thing about this whole mess is that the X1 CPU is supposedly stronger than the PS4 CPU which could actually mean that the PS4 is currently the limiting factor. And now think about what would've happened if we'd seen an X1 performing better than the PS4 on a multiplat game. If you think about it that way, Ubis comments actually make a lot of sense since that debate would've definitely be a huge thing and best to avoid.

If Ubi would spend the time to either optimize or reduce the CPU load, the PS4 would no doubt perform better because the bottleneck would switch to the GPU, where it belongs.

I am not denying that Ubi did a very stupid PR move. They do a lot of stupid things.

All I'm suggesting is that if there is a CPU bottleneck and if it is true what all sources are indicating that the X1 CPU is stronger than the PS4 CPU, that the PS4 version is actually holding the game back and that it could run slightly better on the X1. Which means the X1 fans should be outraged and the PS fans should thank Ubi for not making them look even worse.

But in the end it's up to your own taste who and for what to blame.

You can hate Ubi for not properly programming the game or for straining the CPU with too many AIs in the first place.

Or you could hate the console manufacturers for going the cheap route with an APU.

Or you could hate yourself for not having enough money to build a powerful home PC.

But currently the hate is absolutely misdirected.

Ah, i assume this is about the CPU/GPU stuff :p

In fairness though, yesterday was thoroughly entertaining. 3 giant ACU threads and some sales meltdowns o/

Yep, it was quite fun. Until it was not anymore. I could barely laugh at the sales thread because I was too focused on the ACU disaster :(

Fine, then. If you feel that way then you never really were one. GTFO.

You need to read the OP. I really was one. And I'm not ashamed of it. Sadly the high days of my fanboyism were over before I joined this forum.