CDiablo said:
Watch Dogs. Probably many others that have to use weak console textures. |
I said next gen, not cross gen. Cross-gen gimps games by default. Tomb Raider 2 will get this up the rear.
CDiablo said:
Watch Dogs. Probably many others that have to use weak console textures. |
I said next gen, not cross gen. Cross-gen gimps games by default. Tomb Raider 2 will get this up the rear.
platformmaster918 said:
but it's Ubi's responsibility (as far as providing their customers the best experience possible on each platform) to get the most they can out of each platform. They are making a concerted effort to NOT do that if it's the same on Xbox and PS4 since they know as well as you or I that it is not the same power level we're talking. |
Nobody seemed to care about this until now.
Also like I said to others, just because the PS4 is more powerful doesn't mean EVERY game will look better unless the PS4 is the lead platform.

S.T.A.G.E. said:
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I literally cant think of any current gen only games atm lol. Doesnt change the fact that the consoles are fairly weak.
Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.
Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.
-Jim Sterling
CDiablo said:
I literally cant think of any current gen only games atm lol. Doesnt change the fact that the consoles are fairly weak. |
Thats the reason why next gen consoles were needed, so they wouldn't have to dumb down the games to a level so low that it would look like you're getting two different games like cross-gen. It dumbs down the possibilities. They need the money that console gamers provide to fund their next ventures. PC wins by default because of capability and upgradable nature, but the sales on consoles are the reason why they hold back. Also, people who are privy and versed on gaming have some idea of PC's being better but like what consoles offer exclusively despite it all. They just want to game. Assassins Creed was developed with the PC gamer in mind, primarily. Now games like Far Cry? I can completely understand you if the game was gimped, but I doubt the next gen consoles will hold back PC until like 3-4 years from now. The amount of ram needed to run games is perfectly fine and the GPU is fine. High level PC graphics at the start of the gen is pretty good, i'd say.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
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Currnt gen was needed cause the old systems were weak but Sony/MS designed around cost not power. Every game, even double cross gen(Ps3/4/PC/X360/1) should have some sort of advantage on PC other than frame and resolution. Games like Watch Dogs had super high graphics axed cause of consoles. Shadows of Moridor Ultra settings textures are the same as PS4(possibly X1 havent seen a comparison). Its not because PS4 is that good its because its good enough on PC and it gives them time to work on other versions in time to make what they are aiming.
Current gen systems are not nearly close to high end as the PS360 systems were. On top of that the familiar arcitecture will make the consoles easier to max out. We wont know until most cross plats go only current gen and that doesnt seem to be the case until late 2015/2016.
Getting an XBOX One for me is like being in a bad relationship but staying together because we have kids. XBone we have 20000+ achievement points, 2+ years of XBL Gold and 20000+ MS points. I think its best we stay together if only for the MS points.
Nintendo Treehouse is what happens when a publisher is confident and proud of its games and doesn't need to show CGI lies for five minutes.
-Jim Sterling
| Fusioncode said: The problem isn't that the game is 900p. The problem is that they're INTENTIONALLY gimping the PS4 version for no reason other than to make XBO owners feel better. I'm not sure why people don't understand that. |
This is what makes me mad. If the best they could do with this game was 900P on the ps4, I'd be ok with it, but that's not why. If this makes the xbox one crowd happy, it's a little pathetic. Once they've come out and said that that's the reason, it doesn't really matter anymore because it's now known that the ps4 verison SHOULD look better.
| platformmaster918 said: It's not the resolution that bothers me. It's the fact that they are clearly holding the PS4's full potential back. That's trying to take value away from PS4 by MS instead of trying to increase the value of your own console. Why try to rob PS4 owners of the more powerful console features they paid for? Ridiculous and despicable! |
Remember when Sony was designing the PS4? They met with each major 3rd party dev, including Ubisoft, and asked them what they wanted in a next-gen console. Sony gave the console Ubisoft wanted and all of a sudden, they don't want to take advantage of that luxury?
CDiablo said:
Current gen systems are not nearly close to high end as the PS360 systems were. On top of that the familiar arcitecture will make the consoles easier to max out. We wont know until most cross plats go only current gen and that doesnt seem to be the case until late 2015/2016. |
They build the game so it can make sense to be played on consoles, which is why PC gets held back. We also know that current gen consoles aren't close to what 360 and PS3 were. The whole point is to make sure the console is affordable for the larger audience and that audience depends upon consoles. Once more, Ubisoft was hounding Sony and Microsoft to make a new console that met a specific spec type. Sony and MS had been working with third party for a couple years and figured out what they needed to do. Yes, they built for cost, but the consoles are still a considerable amount more powerful than last gen. The PS4 is the most powerful of the consoles though and we were told by Machinima last year that politics would be played to because of the PS4's power gap with the Xbone to keep multiplats at parity. This was a year ago and they are 100% correct.
Sure both consoles are that of a high level PC, but really it doesnt matter as long as the games get better for us on consoles and the PC versions get to look as good as you're used to. The console exclusives will be amazingly beautiful as well.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
I'll just leave this here... |
and????
raw spec never tranlated into a 1to1 in reality ever... With a 50% raw spec increase on EVERYTHING you'd be lucky to get a 30% actual increase on a good day...
but if helps sleep at night good for you....
even with 4k 60fps... I'd still buy an XBO or Wii U before I'd consider a PS4 cause there are so much more to a console than its raw specs...

endimion said:
raw spec never tranlated into a 1to1 in reality ever... With a 50% raw spec increase on EVERYTHING you'd be lucky to get a 30% actual increase on a good day... but if helps sleep at night good for you.... even with 4k 60fps... I'd still buy an XBO or Wii U before I'd consider a PS4 cause there are so much more to a console than its raw specs... |
The PS4 has already proven itself, so essentially your point is personal preference (being that the performance backing up the raw specs have not impressed you yet). Thats perfectly fine, but thats not really refuting the standing issue on multiplats and the possibility of politics playing a hand in parity. I have both consoles so I don't really have to wine and complain about it (actually im really laughing), but the truth is really out there for us to attain and if we want to ignore it thats perfectly fine as well.
As for me i'm getting Assassins Creed day one. Have you seen the trailers? Looks on par with Assassins Creed as far as the storyline is being sold.