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Jaxyfoo said:
When Ubisoft tell me they are flying a rocket to the moon, I usually start cleaning my roof for when they land on it. Now it looks like I need to clean my basement out too.

This comment is hilarious! I really enjoyed that. Thanks for the honest laugh :)

Ubisoft is now spinning hard that 30 fps is more cinematic and 60 fps actually ruins gaming experience. 

""At Ubisoft for a long time we wanted to push 60 fps. I don't think it was a good idea because you don't gain that much from 60 fps and it doesn't look like the real thing. It's a bit like The Hobbit movie, it looked really weird.

"And in other games it's the same - like the Rachet and Clank series [where it was dropped]. So I think collectively in the video game industry we're dropping that standard because it's hard to achieve, it's twice as hard as 30fps, and its not really that great in terms of rendering quality of the picture and the image."

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/viva-la-resoluci-n-assassin-s-creed-dev-thinks-industry-is-dropping-60-fps-standard-1268241

Next generation when PS5/XB2 are out, they'll be telling us how 4K gaming @ 60 Fps is the next revolution in gaming!

Ubisoft is making EA look good. 

Food for thought, once Naughty Dog and other Sony 1st party developers release next gen games that put AC Unity to shame in graphics and resolution, Ubisoft's programmers/managers will look very unprofessional.



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Sorry if old :

Ubisoft’s reason to downgrade PS4 version of Assassin’s Creed is quite genius !

''Ubisoft’s reasoning for this was that the Xbox One can only do 900p/30 frames per second, and Ubisoft didn’t want to make Xbox One users feel inferior. Pontbriand said that they just limited the PS4 version to the Xbox One to “avoid all the debates and stuff”. This is despite the fact that the PS4’s GPU is 50% more powerful than the Xbox One’s, and can easily run games at 1080p.

But the exact opposite has happened: Ubisoft’s decision has caused far more debate than if they had just stuck with 1080p for the PlayStation 4 version. Last year’s Assassin’s Creed 4 was upgraded to full HD with a post-launch patch, but Ubisoft has made no such announcement so far for Unity.

Ubisoft’s reason to “avoid all debates and stuff” completely backfired — we’re talking more about this than we ever would have if the PS4 version offered 1080p from the get go. If that was the case, it would have been just another PS4 game that runs at a higher resolution that the Xbox One. It’s so common, it’s barely worth writing about these days.

But to purposefully downgrade the game? That’s worth writing about !!!''

Ubisoft’s reason to “avoid all debates and stuff” completely backfired — we’re talking more about this than we ever would have.

''And maybe that’s what Ubisoft intended. People are now talking about Assassin’s Creed Unity more than ever. In fact, nobody really talked about the game before — it was just another Assassin’s Creed game coming out. Now there’s a reason to talk about the game. And the people talking about it (especially PS4 gamers) are really passionate, which is a must for a good PR trick.

And when all this calms down and people start forgetting that it happened, Ubisoft will announce that the PlayStation 4 version of Assassin’s Creed Unity will get a patch to get it to 1080p — just like with the previous Assassin’s Creed game.

It’s quite genius, actually, and one of the better PR moves of the year !''

http://ps4daily.com/2014/10/ubisoft-ps4-downgrade/


Quite obvious if you ask me. So, PS4 owners might play it at 1080p after all, it's a possibility.



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QuintonMcLeod said:
Hynad said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Neodegenerate said:

The LIMITED adoption of 4k in gaming, TV, etc. is the point he is making.  Just because a small group (early adopters) of a small group (dedicated PC gamers) of a small group (gamers in general) are doing it does not mean that it is convenient for the largest of the small group (gamers).  You seem to think that because you do something the rest of the world will do it, should do it, or already is doing it.  Doesn't work that way.


You don't need to be dedicated to experience 4k gaming. As you know, PCs have been capable of 4k resolutions for a very long time. Also, 4k televisions are getting very cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SE50UY04-50-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00BXF7I9M

I dunno what you've heard, but the PC is a lot farther ahead of consoles than you may think.

You go around telling people they know nothing and all that crap.

Here is how limited the adoption of 4K gaming actually is: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Scroll to the Primary Display Resolution data and you will notice that less than 4% of gamers play at a resolution higher than 1080p. Not 4k, all resolutions above 1080p combined. What more, less than 1% of all gamers play in 4k. Only 33% of them play in 1080p. While 25.97% are still playing in 1366x760.
The ratio doesn't change much when you factor in the multi-displays users.

So much for boasting the adoption rate of 4K PC gaming.


Who cares? I didn't ever say 4k was at a high adoption rate to begin with. I simply said PC gamers have the choice to do it. So eager to claim a victory and not even realize how far away from the truth you truly are.


Far from the truth? Tell me, what truth am I far from?  You kept mentioning 4K gaming as if it was something big right now, arguing with Neodegenerate about it. I brought in facts. Truth that 4K is a very, very small part of gaming right now. Which supports Neodegenerate's stance for which you were arguing for no sane reason against.

Then again, that's pretty much what you always do, 
arguing for the sake of arguing, all the freaking time. Your agenda against the PS4 is bordering on trolling. And that's pretty much the only thing you do on VGC. Only a matter of time before you get what you (and, by extention, the community) deserve.

Now, that ludicrous mention about winning... Seriously, that tells a lot about your purpose on these forums. If you think everything is about fighting to win something here, it's no wonder you don't see how a discussion on forums can ever be constructive. You should give that misplaced over-inflated ego of yours a check. 



Hynad said:


Far from the truth? Tell me, what truth am I far from?  You kept mentioning 4K gaming as if it was something big right now, arguing with Neodegenerate about it. I brought in facts. Truth that 4K is a very, very small part of gaming right now. Which supports Neodegenerate's stance for which you were arguing for no sane reason against.

Then again, that's pretty much what you always do, 
arguing for the sake of arguing, all the freaking time. Your agenda against the PS4 is bordering on trolling. And that's pretty much the only thing you do on VGC. Only a matter of time before you get what you (and, by extention, the community) deserve.

Now, that ludicrous mention about winning... Seriously, that tells a lot about your purpose on these forums. If you think everything is about fighting to win something here, it's no wonder you don't see how a discussion on forums can ever be constructive. You should give that misplaced over-inflated ego of yours a check. 

I don't even know what you're arguing about, to be totally honest with you. Whatever you're talking about isn't what I was talking about. Then you go into a long rant about an agenda against the PS4, and blah, blah, blah. The next thing you know, it'll be an agenda against the Xbone. Seriously, just give up.



You know, considering the fact that this thread has gone on long enough to show that resolution matters a lot for some people, and some of those people being very vocal about it, I think it's safe to say it backfired hard.



 
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What I do find interesting in all this mess is that typing in bold all the time doesn't get you banned.



They'd better not do that with The Division



QuintonMcLeod said

This doesn't prove that televisions set the standards on resolutions. That was the point you were trying to make.

Also, your second source is very old, as the PC has been showing growth this year:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2014/10/09/gartner-growth-eu-us/1?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20bit-tech%2Fall%20(bit-tech.net%20feed)

But even though the PC market is showing growth, it has nothing to do with what my point was. You're claiming that it's inconvenient for those to game on 4k televisions. My point was that, PC gamers have the choice to game on 4k resolutions if they so desire. Console gamers do not have a choice. PC games aren't restricted to 1080p. They can actually scale (I'm not talking uprez) to 4k resolutions. Some games even advertise as being playable in 4k resolutions. You can play Battlefield 4 in 4k resolutions right now. You can play Theif in 4k resolutions right now. You can play NBA 2k15, WatchDogs, Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider, etc. in 4k resolutions. I bet you had no idea, did you?

The guy I was originally replying to felt that the PS4 was the limit to how good graphics could look at 1080p. He feels that a person won't see much of a difference between a $400 dollar console and a $1100 PC on a 1080p television. This is pure ignorance, and shows that he clearly hasn't seen what PCs are bloody capable of. This is what PCs are capable of:

 

Anyway, I think you were right before. We're done here.


Actually the point I was making was that the mainstream audience won't care about 4k until it is on their TVs.  A point you have, as of yet, been unable to dispute.

The PC market showing growth this year is all well and good, but again doesn't address the point of TVs being the standard setters for the mainstream audience.

Yes I am aware that gamers on PC can play in 4k.  Congrats to you?

I am not the guy you initially argued with.  I am the guy who asked to see a computer you could buy, for $400.00, that would give you the same, or better, gaming experience than a PS4.  You then decided to show a computer that you could buy cheap, but still need to actually put a new vid card in.

But yes I am glad we can finally agree that, we are done here.



BlueFalcon said:
MRKs said:
Don't people play games for fun anymore? Since when the resolution and FPS was all that matter?

Ya, that is true. But if consoles start to cost more money over their timespan, and you pay less for AC Unity with better graphics on a PC, why in the world would you buy that game on PS4/XB1? You probably would think twice. You'd start to buy these games strictly on the PC and buying console exclusives on consoles. The main reason this doesn't happen is because some 10-18 year old kid may not have $700-1000 to drop on a new PC but since his parents already have a 50-65" TV, he only needs to spend $400 o a new console. The total cost of ownership over 8 years is never accounted for. This is understandable since it's a lot harder to save up $700-1000 upfront to start gaming for someone 10-18 vs. buying a PC and starting to recoup the costs over time. In Asia, Russia and Brazil, PC gaming is way  more popular than console gaming because hardly anyone spends $40-60 to buy console games there. These gamers are forced to consider the long-term costs of consoles due to lower average wages. In places like US/Canada, it's the opposite. People can easily afford $40-60 games once a month but they don't like the idea of spending $700-1000 upfront to save over the long-term. It's the same way why in most of the world people buy phones without contracts by paying upfront $700-1000 for a new phone and in US/Canada people love paying $0-200 down and then paying $60-70 monthly fees for 2-3 years. 

Here is how things are looking in other parts of the world (Central Asia) where PS4 games are going for  $50-70 while brand new on Steam:

1. Shadow of Mordor - $24.99 USD

2. AC Black Flags = $15.74 USD

3. Alien Isolation = $26.99 USD

4. NBA 2K15 = $29.99 USD

5. AC Unity = $38 USD

6. Far Cry 4 = $38 USD

7. Witcher 3 = $27 USD

8. Watch Dogs = $22

9. Metro 2033 Redux / Metro Last Light Redux = $15 each

10. F1 2014 = $25

The console equivalents are $50-70!


I understand your point, and while steam does have more sales, you can find cheap console games either online or in retail shops too(and you can always buy used)

 

That aside tough, PC was always the superior choice, last gen was the same and -almost- nobody was into the resolution of the games.  You can play the "Superior" version on PC, but if the game sucks there is no resolution that gonna save the game from being bad.  And people should focus more on that



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Neodegenerate said:
QuintonMcLeod said

This doesn't prove that televisions set the standards on resolutions. That was the point you were trying to make.

Also, your second source is very old, as the PC has been showing growth this year:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2014/10/09/gartner-growth-eu-us/1?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20bit-tech%2Fall%20(bit-tech.net%20feed)

But even though the PC market is showing growth, it has nothing to do with what my point was. You're claiming that it's inconvenient for those to game on 4k televisions. My point was that, PC gamers have the choice to game on 4k resolutions if they so desire. Console gamers do not have a choice. PC games aren't restricted to 1080p. They can actually scale (I'm not talking uprez) to 4k resolutions. Some games even advertise as being playable in 4k resolutions. You can play Battlefield 4 in 4k resolutions right now. You can play Theif in 4k resolutions right now. You can play NBA 2k15, WatchDogs, Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider, etc. in 4k resolutions. I bet you had no idea, did you?

The guy I was originally replying to felt that the PS4 was the limit to how good graphics could look at 1080p. He feels that a person won't see much of a difference between a $400 dollar console and a $1100 PC on a 1080p television. This is pure ignorance, and shows that he clearly hasn't seen what PCs are bloody capable of. This is what PCs are capable of:

 

Anyway, I think you were right before. We're done here.


Actually the point I was making was that the mainstream audience won't care about 4k until it is on their TVs.  A point you have, as of yet, been unable to dispute.

The PC market showing growth this year is all well and good, but again doesn't address the point of TVs being the standard setters for the mainstream audience.

Yes I am aware that gamers on PC can play in 4k.  Congrats to you?

I am not the guy you initially argued with.  I am the guy who asked to see a computer you could buy, for $400.00, that would give you the same, or better, gaming experience than a PS4.  You then decided to show a computer that you could buy cheap, but still need to actually put a new vid card in.

But yes I am glad we can finally agree that, we are done here.

1) A point I haven't refuted because I don't care and nor have I argued this.

2) ** shrugs ** Don't care.

3) Yes. Congrats to me.

4) The video card we put in made it $400 bucks. Without the video card, it would be less than $250 bucks.

5) Indeed, we are.