She's not good.  Upper low tier or lower mid.  She's still better than a decent amout of characters.  If she only has less lag on her F and D smash, she'd be viable :(

It's the same situation with Shulk. I was really excited to use him! But... he just sucks

Alright, I'm ready whenever you are.

I'm sure plenty of people have already mentioned this, but a lot of characters in the new Smash can counter. It kind of sucks when you play characters that have strong attacks, but get knocked off screen easily.

Shulk, Palutena, Ike, Little Mac, Marth, and Lucina I think are the only ones that can.  Countering can be useful, but it's really riskuy.  Usually not worth it unless you have a very strong read.

Greninja and Lucario also has a counter.  Some of the characters counters are better than others.  Marth probably has the strongest counter, but I didn't really check.

edit:  I should probably have added the context that the reason it sucks is because of playing in multiplayer battles by yourself (like against CPUs), it's very common to have more than one character capable of countering.  CPUs are notoriously good at dodging and pulling off counters.

I did miss Greninja and Lucario.  But Marth, Ike, and Lucina are definitely not riskless.  The risk isn't SDing, the risk is that if you use it at the wrong time, your opponent can easily punish you.

Counters are extremely easy to punish, especially against players rather than CPUs.  In fact, because of these characters having counters, I have seen people overusing the counter and it becomes painfully easy to predict when they will use it.  But my main problem comes from multi-man CPU battles (whether in Classic or just in Smash with level 9 CPUs).

Sorry, online now.

Yeah, quite a bit of lag. What stage do you want?