2010 UK election results in Scotland.

35% of the Scottish electorate voted for Conservative or Lib Dem.

The difference between SNP voters and Con voters is 80,000. Less than 2% swing needed for Con to outvote SNP.

How the Scots have the cheek to complain about Thatcher and the evil Tories baffles me. The English had to put up with Tony Blair and Gordon-the illegitimate bastard-Brown and the rest of the Scottish Raj that dominated English and UK politics. They never once brought up the fact that MPs for Scots constituency have no right to determine English policy let alone be Prime Minister. Fair play to the Conservatives for trying to keep the country together by not forcing the matter and fair play to the SNP MPs who refused to vote on English affairs. Labour are such self-serving scumbags.

The Union is finished. It ended when Scotland got her Parliament back. That's what the Union was/is, the English and Scottish Parliaments uniting. It's a federal system or nothing now.

English votes on English laws is a stupid idea. The English (likely Con) "First Minister" is going to block everything a UK (Lab) Gov tries to impose. Utter shambles. Just pull the plug already.

Scotland can be very successful. They have vast natural resources and talent. Unfortunately they like to vote for communists, so it will probably get pissed away. I think the Scots will vote No this time but once the oldies die off it will be a Yes. Give it 20 years, that should be enough time for the English fracking industry to establish itself. Oil, lol.

The same could be said for inner cities, surely? (And York) The last election results all major inner cities were pretty much Labour or Lib Dems. Yet even then with places of such high desensity and population it's not enough to outweigh the amount of country side seats (and here I am, a farm kid voting Labour.... maybe there is something wrong with me).

Is poverty in Scotland because of the Union? According to stats, 1 in 6 children in the UK are below the poverty line, this is a UK wide issue. But I understand the idea of wanting to get out. It's why I understand those who think electing UKIP to get out of the EU is a good idea, even if they don't understand it.

Maybe a good polical system is based on our 4 nations, each nation has it's own Parliament each with and individual leader. The big decisions on international related things or new laws that affect the nation is done by a vote of those 4 representative after it's gone through the 4 parliaments. it has to get majority 3 out of 4 to pass a decision (like going to war). While other laws about tax, NHS funding etc are all done based in the regional parliaments. Even then larger funding or say international aid/budget could be done by again 4 representatives, 1 from each parliament, not just 1 guy who sometimes doesn't even have a GCSE in Ecomonics.

I (and I suspect most of Scotland) agree that the West Lothian question is unfair on the rest of the UK.

You may be interested to know,

“SNP MPs already refrain from voting on exclusively English, Welsh and Northern Irish matters, which do not impact on Scotland. This self-denying ordinance stands in stark contrast to Labour, Lib Dem and Tory MPs who, to date, have been happy to impose their will on the other nations of the UK." Pete Wishart MP 17/01/2012

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Thanks mate, very interesting, particularly that part.

Hey, I really wanted to know your take on this. But, couldn't understand half of the video XD

Also, thanks to hapimeses.

^This pretty much sums up the ignorance of most of the people saying things about a region they don't understand.  People just yell "FREEDOM" and assume that it is always better to be independent.  

I have studied the history of England, Scotland, and their relationship to each other quite a bit.  The fact is that the Union of 1707 was MASSIVELY benificial to Scotland and ushered in the their golden age.  Scotland has a ton of resources, but not a lot of financial or bureaucratic infrastructure.  A union with England balances and benifits BOTH regions.

I understand that Scotland is now a different place than it was 300 years ago, and that the liberal Scottish are tired of being anchored down by the conservitives in England.  Still, I really think people are letting there emotions get in the way of their logical thinking. 

LOL this is exactly why.  Sure you can talk about politics and natural resources, but in reality most people in support of "Yes" are doing so out of a purily emotional apeal.  That's never lead to any mistakes before...

^This is where hopefull thinking and reality come to a head.  I think Colin Quinn said it best like this:

"The Greeks were busy thinking. The Romans came in and conquered them and said, 'What do you think about that?'"

You guys can all dream on while the conquerors come in and make their dreams a reality.  The realists rule the world.  Sometimes you have to realize that allowing everyone to declare their own sovereign country MAKES ABSOLUTILY NO SENSE, and that if a bunch of people have the power to get what they want....THEY WILL.

This is exciting.

I hope they become independant. There are many reasons why and being able to watch all the shitstorm all around Europe - in Spain, Belgium, the Balkans waking up again most probably, maybe even Germany having to deal with separatists would also be fun and entertaining