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Should Scotland leave the union? If yes or no please say why.

Yes 152 43.80%
 
No 143 41.21%
 
It does not matter 26 7.49%
 
I dont understand 26 7.49%
 
Total:347

I'm English but I think they should go independent. The Scottish parliament is very different to west minister politically and would better represent them if given full power. I have little doubt that they could make a success of it.



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kowenicki said:

If they do vote yes then at least as an Englishman I will get MY independence back. 

Seriously. Turkeys dont vote for Christmas unless they are very, very stupid... it will be a NO vote.

 

When I lived in Scotland and devolution was big topic with independence being discussed I thought it was a long shot too.  I guess I underestimated things like emotion and pride.

Economically not sure how this will pan out, but have my concerns on the oil projections Scotland will see in coming 30 years.



I feel that Scotland's demand for independence is emotionally driven. I'm very concerned on whether they have what it takes to maintain themselves economically.



Metrium said:
If I lived in a country that still acts like if this was the 17th century where it's ok to be ruled by queens, dukes and princes, I would certainly want to leave.


You are kidding right?  (About the UK being rules by Monarchs)

 



I don t think Scotland will leave the UK, buy I have heard they are no longer supporting the Wii U



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If they vote for it, I cant wait for Yorkshire to also get a vote.



                            

Serious_frusting said:

Its a real hot debate. If you have been keeping track the polls are showing it can swing one way or the other. If Scotland do vote to leave the union then the UK is going to lose like 7 million or so people.

The population in Scotland is currently about 5.3 million people.

Serious_frusting said:

I have always seen the welsh, scotish and english culture as one. 

Well, that may be the case for you, but within the respective countries I can pretty much guarantee that very few, close to none, would agree with you. I'm Scottish, and I feel the culture I grew up with is quite different to that found in England and Wales, though we do share many values in common. In much the same way that the culture I grew up with is very different to that found in the United States, though we do share many values in common. For obvious reasons.

Serious_frusting said:

I mean the royal fam have scottish roots afterall.

And that's a reason the cultures of Scotland, England, and Wales are 'as one'? Really? I fail to see the connection.

Serious_frusting said:

I am just wondering what others are thinking about this vote.

I think it's an inevitable referendum considering the politics of the UK for the last fifty years or so, though I'm still surprised it happened when it did. The Scottish Parliament's voting system was specifically designed to make it very difficult for a single party to acheive an overall majority. The SNP still did it, though. I was stunned at the time.

Serious_frusting said:

I think it is wrong that scotch people who live in England have no vote about it.

I have sympathy for this view. However, in practice it turns out to be almost impossible to do it any other way. Residence was determined to be the only way to ensure fairness for a variety of reasons, and was agreed by both parliaments to be the best option available (although, be aware, there are some exceptions -- the military has some, for example). So, if one wants to vote about the future of the country, one has to live in the country (and be born in the UK or EU, and be 16+). Much the same system was used for the 1997 referendum asking whether to establish the Scottish Parliament or not, and in the 1979 referendum before that. It has history.

Serious_frusting said:

I would like to here anyones opinion on this.

Me too. :D



XanderXT said:
Being part British myself, it's strange on why they want right now to become independent.

It's not a 'right now' matter. The desire for Scottish independence is old. The opportunity for this referendum arose because the SNP managed a majority at the last Scottish parliamentary election, and were in a position to push it forward. So they did. And we have a vote coming up.



Hapimeses said:
XanderXT said:
Being part British myself, it's strange on why they want right now to become independent.

It's not a 'right now' matter. The desire for Scottish independence is old. The opportunity for this referendum arose because the SNP managed a majority at the last Scottish parliamentary election, and were in a position to push it forward. So they did. And we have a vote coming up.

I presume he means now as in after after the ecomonic issues. If UK and world economy was strong, lets say like it was in the late 90s, many might not have had as much concern of uncertainy as they do now.



Hmm, pie.

Scottish independence would be great for me personally. I make rings out of coins (shameless plug: https://www.etsy.com/shop/TheRingTree) and I get asked for Scotland a lot. It is unfortunate (for me) that they use British currency and don't mint their own.

It is equally unfortunate that everyone in Europe uses the Euro. The pre-Euro coins were so unique and beautiful - the Euro is just, well..... boring.