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One of the most precise weekly sales yet.
But why correct ps4 110k down when we were still 250k undertracked?



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Jega said:
se7en7thre3 said:
I honestly expected a bigger bump for XB1. I was one of the biggest XB1 critics, but when they made all those changes before launch, I started to watch them again. Then they made a kinectless sku, and last but not least gave away a free game? I jumped at that (Madden bundle), fully taking advantage of the situation.

Where did the 360 fans go? MS needs to come up with an official upgrade program with all retailers that accept trade-ins, and motivate 360 owners to upgrade. The longer MS waits, its going to continue being a slaughter by PS4, because that's where the community (friends, family, etc) is.

Ms didn't lose any of their fans once youre a fan you are a fan unless Xbox one loses developer support which they have not.

The Xbox One is doing fine as I have been saying for a while now. 

September October November and december is Xbox time. I see big numbers coming.

I wonder though is this the first week in months the xbox one has outsold the ps4 in america.

I predict the month of november when call of duty comes out xbox one will outsell the ps4 in america.

They did lose a lot of fans. Sony even has data showing that PS4 owners are about 1/3 coming from Xbox 360.

You have to try and look at this with a fresh new perspective, last-gen rules don't apply here. You can't assume XB1 will win the holidays like the 360 used to. Things have changed and the odds are in Sony's favor.

Microsoft does have 2 advantages in November and that's the Halo Collection and COD bundle. We still don't know Sony's holiday strategy, they might just get by on pure momentum.

OT: Madden provided a decent boost this week. Let's see if it can hold up a new baseline from now on. I dont' see the XB1 dropping to the 50k levels any time soon. 100k+ from now on.



iTechHeads said:
Jega said:
se7en7thre3 said:
I honestly expected a bigger bump for XB1. I was one of the biggest XB1 critics, but when they made all those changes before launch, I started to watch them again. Then they made a kinectless sku, and last but not least gave away a free game? I jumped at that (Madden bundle), fully taking advantage of the situation.

Where did the 360 fans go? MS needs to come up with an official upgrade program with all retailers that accept trade-ins, and motivate 360 owners to upgrade. The longer MS waits, its going to continue being a slaughter by PS4, because that's where the community (friends, family, etc) is.

Ms didn't lose any of their fans once youre a fan you are a fan unless Xbox one loses developer support which they have not.

The Xbox One is doing fine as I have been saying for a while now. 

September October November and december is Xbox time. I see big numbers coming.

I wonder though is this the first week in months the xbox one has outsold the ps4 in america.

I predict the month of november when call of duty comes out xbox one will outsell the ps4 in america.

They did lose a lot of fans. Sony even has data showing that PS4 owners are about 1/3 coming from Xbox 360.

You have to try and look at this with a fresh new perspective, last-gen rules don't apply here. You can't assume XB1 will win the holidays like the 360 used to. Things have changed and the odds are in Sony's favor.

Microsoft does have 2 advantages in November and that's the Halo Collection and COD bundle. We still don't know Sony's holiday strategy, they might just get by on pure momentum.

OT: Madden provided a decent boost this week. Let's see if it can hold up a new baseline from now on. I dont' see the XB1 dropping to the 50k levels any time soon. 100k+ from now on.


Wrong

1/3 didn't have a PS3/ had a Wii or 360.




prayformojo-I could care less about WHICH console is doing well. As long as a console IS doing well, then I'm happy. With the rise of mobile, it's not something to take for granted. Having said that, what I DO care about, is people spreading false information based on bias. Sure, the PS4 is number one but "supreme king" is a bit much when the thing didn't even win the biggest market for the week.
I get the feeling that fanboys WANT to compare the PS4 to PS2, but that's just wrong. They don't compare, at all, in anyway.


because the xone won one(

You probably didn't finished your sentence... I guess.



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Yeah well 1/3 weren't PS4 owners and its safe to say the majority were 360 owners rather than Wii owners, just look at the top selling games, its the PS3/360 audience buying games. That's just how I see it. I think the Wii audience is mostly gone, that market has shrunk significantly.



larrysdirtydrawss said:

prayformojo-I could care less about WHICH console is doing well. As long as a console IS doing well, then I'm happy. With the rise of mobile, it's not something to take for granted. Having said that, what I DO care about, is people spreading false information based on bias. Sure, the PS4 is number one but "supreme king" is a bit much when the thing didn't even win the biggest market for the week.
I get the feeling that fanboys WANT to compare the PS4 to PS2, but that's just wrong. They don't compare, at all, in anyway.


because the xone won one(<--that shits weird) week,due to EXTREME measures by literally giving away one of the biggest sports games away for free,means the ps2 and ps4 dont compare at all?? they compare very much by dominating world sales.. and dont forget,this is vgcahrtz,where the ps brand is usually under-tracked and the xbox brand is over-tracked.and once adjustments happen,its usually bad news for the xbox brand.. i wouldnt be a bit surprised if the ps4 actually won this week in america after adjustments,thats how this usually works

Are some of you ignoring a Madden bundle, the fact that the PS4 is undertracked often in the US, and such because it really doesn't aid your view? I mean, I'm trying to understand this. Next you mention the PS2 (something the PS4 is currently ahead of) and then claim there's no comparison. 

I just don't get some of these misinformed viewpoints.



                                                                                                             

I just noticed this but since the Xbox One won this week with the Madden bundle and the game still sold better on PS4....just think what Advanced Warfare bundle will do. Xbox One will easily win that week. The COD brand is still strong even though our pre-order chart doesn't show it.

Basically since a "weak" bundle boosted Xone enough to win, just imagine what a "strong" bundle will do in the holidays.



iTechHeads said:
I just noticed this but since the Xbox One won this week with the Madden bundle and the game still sold better on PS4....just think what Advanced Warfare bundle will do. Xbox One will easily win that week. The COD brand is still strong even though our pre-order chart doesn't show it.

That would mean ignoring the holiday boost that both the X1 and PS4 will get during the month. There will nothing easy about the X1 attempting to claim the week, with or without that bundle.



                                                                                                             

That madden... i really dont understand that franchise. Which also explains the Xbox One boost.. obligatory SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS