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Forums - Sales - August 2014 NPD Thread! PS4 - 190k, XBO - 160k, Wii U < 60k, PSV < 6k

Aura7541 on 12 September 2014
Intrinsic said:

i think the haters and naysayers have sunk to a new sad low.

They have obviously given up anything outselling or matching the PS4.

So now its "yh yh the PS4 is winning, but they are not winning well enough"

Funny thing is that this "well enough" logic ignores that the PS4 is selling better than any playstation console before it. Including the playstation console that is still the best selling console of all time.

I guess haters  really HAVE to hate.

This. Some people go as far as to say that X1 sales are close to PS4 sales.... despite the fact that the gap has been widening the entire time.



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Soundwave on 12 September 2014

I will say for Nintendo I think doubling back down on the Wii U Game Pad was a mistake. Miyamoto's Giant Robot/Project Guard demos were extremely underwhelming at E3 and back to sub-60k sales so soon after Mario Kart 8's launch is just terrible.

They should just ditch the GamePad and go with this bundle ...

$249.99 Wii U w/Mario Kart 8 + Smash Demo + 1 amiibo figure bundled.

Game Pad w/Nintendo Land (replace later with Mario Maker) bundle - $99.99.



fatslob-:O on 12 September 2014
CosmicSex said:

No, people only expect the market leader to be leading.  And that is what its doing.  The PS4 is outperforming both the best selling console of all time and all of it concurrent competition.  The militant attack against the PS4 is ridiculous considering the results of other consoles.  Present some real data.  You are cherry picking like a mofo.  When the PS4 tops 250k in September which is about 100% certain, will it go back to being the "market leader"?  Or will you introduce another arbitrary measure to suit your needs. 

 

What happened to objective reasoning.  You have subjective definitions for objective terms.   Its not even opinion.  Its just wrong.  The PS4 is the market leader... it has outperformed nearly all consoles .  What is the point of being so wrong?

We already know that a market leader is supposed to be leading the race ... However, no one can deny it's lack luster performance so far compared to the previous leaders. 

Go ask yourself this ... Whatever happened to comparing performance against previous leaders ? This is already the fourth time that the PS4 has went below 250K for a month in North America ... 



Soundwave on 12 September 2014
Iamdavirus said:
Intrinsic said:

i think the haters and naysayers have sunk to a new sad low.

They have obviously given up anything outselling or matching the PS4.

So now its "yh yh the PS4 is winning, but they are not winning well enough"

Funny thing is that this "well enough" logic ignores that the PS4 is selling better than any playstation console before it. Including the playstation console that is still the best selling console of all time.

I guess haters  really HAVE to hate.

Yep it's pathetic, and they ignore all year sales and focus on 1 month and declare that as proof.....nothing but spin


Lol, PS2 has been kicking PS4's ass pretty soundly for several months now. This month is par for the course, nothing special. 

People are just specifically citing this month's numbers because they're the newest and most relevant numbers we have. 



Iamdavirus on 12 September 2014
fatslob-:O said:
CosmicSex said:

No, people only expect the market leader to be leading.  And that is what its doing.  The PS4 is outperforming both the best selling console of all time and all of it concurrent competition.  The militant attack against the PS4 is ridiculous considering the results of other consoles.  Present some real data.  You are cherry picking like a mofo.  When the PS4 tops 250k in September which is about 100% certain, will it go back to being the "market leader"?  Or will you introduce another arbitrary measure to suit your needs. 

 

What happened to objective reasoning.  You have subjective definitions for objective terms.   Its not even opinion.  Its just wrong.  The PS4 is the market leader... it has outperformed nearly all consoles .  What is the point of being so wrong?

We already know that a market leader is supposed to be leading the race ... However, no one can deny it's lack luster performance so far compared to the previous leaders. 

Go ask yourself this ... Whatever happened to comparing performance against previous leaders ? This is already the fourth time that the PS4 has went below 250K for a month in North America ... 

WOW just WOW, the second fastest ever is Lackliuster??? AGAIN it is lower now because it wwas able to sell million s more faster meeting demand, by the time 360 and ps3 hit 10 mill they had price drops...wow, why do you keep ignoring this and only bring up 1 month??? It makes noi sense, you are taking things out of context and spinning

 

 

UYou ignore total sales and spin that 1 month tells the whole story, it's sad.



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Iamdavirus on 12 September 2014
Soundwave said:
Iamdavirus said:
Intrinsic said:

i think the haters and naysayers have sunk to a new sad low.

They have obviously given up anything outselling or matching the PS4.

So now its "yh yh the PS4 is winning, but they are not winning well enough"

Funny thing is that this "well enough" logic ignores that the PS4 is selling better than any playstation console before it. Including the playstation console that is still the best selling console of all time.

I guess haters  really HAVE to hate.

Yep it's pathetic, and they ignore all year sales and focus on 1 month and declare that as proof.....nothing but spin


Lol, PS2 has been kicking PS4's ass pretty soundly for several months now. This month is par for the course, nothing special. 

People are just specifically citing this month's numbers because they're the newest and most relevant numbers we have. 


Again when did I say ps4 would outsell ps2???  PS2 was a freak, had no competition........irrelevant to you saying ps4 is doing bad it isn't...nothing will touch ps2,

 

Again this month, had no releases and ps4 alrady is nearing 11 million many months before other marlket leaders sis...you keep ignoring this....360, ps3 had price cuts before then.......



CosmicSex on 12 September 2014
CGI-Quality said:
CosmicSex said:
Soundwave said:

-snip

 

That's pretty much what I showed. What's key: 

PS2:

  • 13 months – March 31st, 2001 – 10.61 million

PS4:

  • 9 months – August 17th, 2014 – 10 million
Seeing how 10 million is the benchmark, that it was I felt was most important. It took the PS4 four months less (overall, I'm aware of the 7 month JP discrepancy for the PS2 and the 3 month difference for PS4) to hit it. Not sure how that can be spun, other than, again, mentioning Japan (which as I did with the Gran Turismo people last gen - the sales were made up elsewhere), but that's grasping at its absolute best.

Seeing as all markets are considered when looking at global benchmarks, it is factious to delve into individual countries because the only result of an aligned launch is more sales at a certain period of time.  Grasping isn't even the word.   For example, they says "Face it! For a market leader the PS4 is underperforming and nothing will change that according to the data".   This means that to there is no situation in which they will admit the PS4 is doing well let alone exceptional.  You can't argue with someone who refuses to acknowledge data while presenting nothing objectively. 

 You: PS4 is the fastest selling console in history.

Them: The PS4 is underperforming and nothing will change that because of this arbitrary fact that doesn't change that its the fastest selling console in history.



Ponyless on 12 September 2014

Jesus flamingweazel, can you at least try to say one negative thing about sony so you don't instantly give yourself away? Or at least cut down on the "?????????????????????????????"



Iamdavirus on 12 September 2014

How can people say PS4 is not doing well when it is the second fastest ever to hot 10 mill and sales are going to explode in sept??? How can you try and spin direct fact??? LMAO.



fatslob-:O on 12 September 2014
Iamdavirus said:

WOW just WOW, the second fastest ever is Lackliuster??? AGAIN it is lower now because it wwas able to sell million s more faster meeting demand, by the time 360 and ps3 hit 10 mill they had price drops...wow, why do you keep ignoring this and only bring up 1 month??? It makes noi sense, you are taking things out of context and spinning

 

 

UYou ignore total sales and spin that 1 month tells the whole story, it's sad.

Apparently you didn't read my other posts ... This isn't the first time that this has happened. This happened 3 other times!

How many more excuses are you going to keep bringing up about the PS4's underperforming months ?