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Conegamer said:

I've posted some stuff already here if it helps.

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Conegamer said:

*snip*

That's about all I've got time for right now. It's taken me pretty much 45 minutes to get all the posts together, even for a brief summary like this. And yes, posting on other threads via phone is greatly different to doing something like this. Will try to finish it up later today or tomorrow, moving on Saturday and then the day is over so will see what I can do. But I can assure you; I'm paying attention. I'm following what's going on and I'm sorry for not posting much the past day or so, but I really have been busy and doing posts like this on your phone is damn tough. Do not for a single second think I do not care, though.

Pretty much the answer I expected. In addition, I'd say the fact that the mental burden of a mafia post is way different from general browsing. Especially all the prior reading that goes with it. I'm a bit preoccupied with some big life stuff right now, so I know that feel.



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Read radish
null, slight chance of town.
these types of reads are generally my favorite for day 1 lynches



Carl and sparks are almost certainly scum




unvote
vote carl



Get ready, it's a big post but I'll to be as concise as possible. I'll be going through the early Day events as I saw them, my comments are in bold italic.

- Nickels comments on Carl's quote [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6653655]

- Carl responds with more quotes [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6653737]

- Nickels votes for Carl [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6655782]

Nicklesbe said:

This better be good. I wake up to find were going to die in a few days. We better get to it then. I'm going to take the advice of WoW and use our most powerful ability. That being the vote. I know it was before day one officially started and he was probably joking but based on recent experiance I've come to trust Theprofs initial instincts. So lets do this by the numbers and get the ball rolling.

Vote: Carl2291 

The way I read it was that he didn't mean much by this vote since he mentions the possibility of prof joking and says that it's to "get the ball rolling"

 - Nickels goes into more detail about his vote still maintains that prof could have been joking but that he trusts his instinct [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6655822] [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6655844]

At this point, I'm still thinking Nickels is making an early vote to fish out a react (mainly because his reasoning is so very weak)

- Carl reacts to the vote by implying prof and Nickles are scum together starting a bandwagon [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6655901]

Again, I see this as early Day banter i.e. I don't think Carl really believed his own accusation

- Carl explains his reasoning behind his quotes [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6655945]

- Nickels seems satisfied with the response asks why Carl thinks prof is scum [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6656000]

- Carl says he didn't believe prof to be scum, was looking for a reaction [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6656041]

Seems my assumption was right

- Carl confronts Nickels about being the second vote on him when Nickels votes for bugrimmar [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6657974]

- Nickels says theprof's vote didn't count and reiterates his reasons for his vote on Carl [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6658021]

- Carl points back to the very first vote where the reasoning was simply "following prof and get the ball rolling" [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6658094]

That's the start of what will later be the main confrontation point between the two

Then there's the whole "I'm a liability to the Town" drama and later.

- Carl mistakes a post about EricFabian to be about him, Nickels corrects him, Carl explain why he thought it was address to him [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6663827] [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6663839] [http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6663906]

I'll say that when I read the impertinence's post I understood what he meant (Will you be following theprof's vote this time too?) but I can also see why Carl would think Nickels's comment was aimed at him since that quoted post includes the vote for Carl.

Then there's a back and forth about Day talk where Nickels accuses Carl of slipping about Day talk and another argument over Carl rewriting history.

For the Day Talk slip, I didn't see it as such. Carl's post said that his behavior looked like he was told by his teammates to use a "feel sorry for me" tactic. What I think is by that point Nickels was so convinced Carl is Mafia that he's latching on to anything (or if Nickels is Mafia himself, he is trying his best to make Carl the target of a lynch should he avoid getting lynched).

The rewriting history argument seems to be rooted in Carl focusing solely on the first post where Nickels voted for him and on the other side Nickels considering the 2-3 posts he made about the vote as his original reasoning. All I see here is a pointless argument, between two players who have come to completely distrust each other.



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Ugh, now I remember why I had stopped going back for re-reads. It screws with my head to read things back with the timing of when it happened.

I'm leaning toward Nickels being town, it would be a colossal risk to attempt this type of play as scum, especially since the reward is minimal. What I mean by that is that if he avoids the lynch toDay, it's not like he'll suddenly be considered a confirmed townie. Funny thing is that his "I'm always going to be suspicious from now on" outburst was a self-fulfilling prophecy: if he hadn't done it he would have been fine but now because of it, he's going to be considered suspicious all game long.



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^^ Edit: The second sentence should read "It screws with my head to read things back without the timing of when it happened."



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theprof00 said:
unvote
vote carl

So.. what? You agree with Nickle's case against Carl? I don't get it. It reeks of the exact same stench from last game with his case on you. In fact, I would say it's even more baseless.

Here it is again for you to read. Tell me the parts you agree with, please.

Or, could you two just be scum buddies?



Sparks, how did YOU know that the terrain faction was town?
You accused someone of it be in a slip, but its right there in the op.
so in actuality, you knew the info without being told by the op.



I honestly dont care about the argument they had.
what I see is this:
Carl came in with his quotes. Nothing suspicious.
Someone comes in and tries to analyze, so he responds with more quotes.
It comes off as evasive and dismissive.
then his whole bandwagoning on nickels is full of easy reasoning. Yes, nickles is suspicious. I suspect him myself a bit, but not really a lynch im willing to risk. The ease of the wagon is way too suspect.
Though, he might be the nuke so mafia, please feel free to kill him tonight.