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impertinence said:
Very weird how everything has just fallen off the cliff. To experienced players, is this type of situation typical? Is this an indication that the case against Sparks is so strong that no one thinks there's any point in looking for anything else? I am puzzled to say the least, but maybe this is the typical ebb and flow of mafia?

Anyway, Sparks has earned his spot right now, Carl is on the hot seat, but what about a character like EricFabian? He continuous down the same path of fake activity and long stretches of nothing at all. Obviously he is playing since he showed up with more nonsense as soon as he was prodded by WoW.

To me, these days would have been better spent looking for someone else to lynch than Sparks, and if we can't find consensus on another strong lynch go ahead and flip Sparks. I am wondering why this has not happened. Especially prof and Trucks I would have expected to take advantage of the potential great head start we could have gotten. The way I see it we have a strong case on Carl as well, but I'm disappointed in the lack of following up on that. Cone's middle of the road play too, another potential line of questioning that's not been picked up. And of course the case of EricFabian.

If town had applied itself just a little bit, we could have had two scum in the net by now, and possibly strong cases for other players as well.

Oh well, sparks is is I guess. At least then could town come up with some theories of what the Sparks flip will tell us?

I say, if Sparks flips scum, Carl is next in line if Sparks flips town then I would take a good look at Trucks. What say you town? (Scum need not reply)

We would also need to take a good look at you and cone.



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Wonktonodi said:

what's the case against sparks?


Seemingly didnt know that Terran = Town in the early game is my main reason for the vote. Other reasons for people are his constant dogpile of Nick and not looking at other players, while always trying to shift focus onto Nick (at times, it also seemed as though he was copying my own arguments against Nick), and his recent lack of activity (despite being online).

Pointed out the case against Astro was "weird".

One other inconsistency can be found here (which I forgot about until my last re-read), where after not knowing about Terran = Town in the early game, he suddenly knew about it later on.

I dont like inconsistencies.

Other people may have other reasons for voting him, I think my reasons are solid and can be backed up.

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Yes, I am still really concerned about the people who had the slips in Day 1 regarding the Terran = Town stuff.

I have one more player in mind who I would like people to look closely at, but the Day is nearing its end. Let me build a case and see what you all think. Ill post it before the day is up.



                            

impertinence said:
Very weird how everything has just fallen off the cliff. To experienced players, is this type of situation typical? Is this an indication that the case against Sparks is so strong that no one thinks there's any point in looking for anything else? I am puzzled to say the least, but maybe this is the typical ebb and flow of mafia?

Anyway, Sparks has earned his spot right now, Carl is on the hot seat, but what about a character like EricFabian? He continuous down the same path of fake activity and long stretches of nothing at all. Obviously he is playing since he showed up with more nonsense as soon as he was prodded by WoW.

To me, these days would have been better spent looking for someone else to lynch than Sparks, and if we can't find consensus on another strong lynch go ahead and flip Sparks. I am wondering why this has not happened. Especially prof and Trucks I would have expected to take advantage of the potential great head start we could have gotten. The way I see it we have a strong case on Carl as well, but I'm disappointed in the lack of following up on that. Cone's middle of the road play too, another potential line of questioning that's not been picked up. And of course the case of EricFabian.

If town had applied itself just a little bit, we could have had two scum in the net by now, and possibly strong cases for other players as well.

Oh well, sparks is is I guess. At least then could town come up with some theories of what the Sparks flip will tell us?

I say, if Sparks flips scum, Carl is next in line if Sparks flips town then I would take a good look at Trucks. What say you town? (Scum need not reply)

It's strange how people have literally just stopped posting, particularly when it's crunch time. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Regardless, my opinions on EricFabian are well known and he seems detrimental regardless of his alignment. He should be considered a target, regardless of what happens tonight IMO. Carl, and Trucks, and Spurge, should all be thrown into the pot depending on the outcome. And WhiteEagle's bizarre play with the whole "doctor" and a pretty worrying Mafia tell with the scanning thing bothers me, but this is the same WhiteEagle who claimed to be Mafia for fun last game so who knows. 



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

padib said:

I'm staying on Wright because I'm more confident with that vote. Sparks' play could be bad town play, and I'd hate to make too many mistakes like last game.


But you base your case on me because of the placeholders I put on some people?



impertinence said:
Very weird how everything has just fallen off the cliff. To experienced players, is this type of situation typical? Is this an indication that the case against Sparks is so strong that no one thinks there's any point in looking for anything else? I am puzzled to say the least, but maybe this is the typical ebb and flow of mafia?

Anyway, Sparks has earned his spot right now, Carl is on the hot seat, but what about a character like EricFabian? He continuous down the same path of fake activity and long stretches of nothing at all. Obviously he is playing since he showed up with more nonsense as soon as he was prodded by WoW.

To me, these days would have been better spent looking for someone else to lynch than Sparks, and if we can't find consensus on another strong lynch go ahead and flip Sparks. I am wondering why this has not happened. Especially prof and Trucks I would have expected to take advantage of the potential great head start we could have gotten. The way I see it we have a strong case on Carl as well, but I'm disappointed in the lack of following up on that. Cone's middle of the road play too, another potential line of questioning that's not been picked up. And of course the case of EricFabian.

If town had applied itself just a little bit, we could have had two scum in the net by now, and possibly strong cases for other players as well.

Oh well, sparks is is I guess. At least then could town come up with some theories of what the Sparks flip will tell us?

I say, if Sparks flips scum, Carl is next in line if Sparks flips town then I would take a good look at Trucks. What say you town? (Scum need not reply)

Back in the days, we were allowed double lynches so catching two scum at a time was actually possible (not sure it ever happened though, I do remember one town, own scum).  I'm actually happy with our Day Two, I'm pretty confident in the Sparks lynch and the overall discussion that took place, everyone that had something to say had his chance to do so. I guess that most players have exhausted what input they could provide with the information we have. 

There used to be a time where we didn't need time limits to finish off Days (I'm starting to sound like an old nostalgic grandpa now...) and when a concesssus on a lynch was reached, some time was alloted for everyone to speak his mind and the person was hammered. What happened toDay reminds me of those occurences but the hammering of the main suspect was replaced by waiting for the timeout.

One more thing, I'm fully prepared to accept the consequences of the Sparks lynch whatever his flip is. I do realize the unlikely town flip would make me look bad but it's the chance I have to take as a townie. I have to be willing to take the heat for a possible mistake if I want to get some scumhunting and scum lynching done. Also, rest assured I'm more than capable of defending myself against a mislynch.

One last thing, I'd like to know how a scum flip for Sparks will affect your views of Wonk.



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padib is here! I have questions for you!

When you say last Night's kills were both Protoss, are you 100% certain, without the shadow of a doubt of this or do you simply have good reasons to believe it's the case.

If both kills were indeed Protoss kills, do you believe it possible that there's no second team?



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padib is here! I have questions for you!

When you say last Night's kills were both Protoss, are you 100% certain, without the shadow of a doubt of this or do you simply have good reasons to believe it's the case.

If both kills were indeed Protoss kills, do you believe it possible that there's no second team?



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padib said:
Wright said:

But you base your case on me because of the placeholders I put on some people?

Why did you say I was a nuke? I told you I was anti-protoss.


Because even with Radish explanation, the unit's explanation throughout day 2 and things like those, you just can't tell me "anti-protoss" and expect me to understand Starcraft terminology at its fullest. Look back at the reasoning I gave for puting you as a possible nuker. Anti-protoss can also be anti-terran, or anti-zerg, or ant-whatever you want to put here.

But I didn't call FoS on you. I simply put it as a placeholder. I have to investigate regarding this fact. Just because I say so doesn't mean I can't point finger to the wrong person. If you turn out to be a legal man, I will admit I was wrong. Spurge just asked me for opinions and I gave them.



Carl2291 said:

Yes, I am still really concerned about the people who had the slips in Day 1 regarding the Terran = Town stuff.


To expand on this, which I forgot about, theprof00 and Wright.



                            

Wonktonodi said:

that wasn't the point prof was making, he was bringing up that when white made the other assumption of you having a day scanning role, why did he say you'd scan him scum?

that could have been a slip, but then again this is Mr ILLCLAIMIMMAFIABECAUSEIMBORED so I'm thinking it's along the lines of  he didn't think it out well when he posted it.

This is the reason why I didn't think anythign of his wording too, he is just so wildly unfocused and inaccurate in everything he says that it's hard to see anything as solid for anything.

That is of course a dangerous way to approach this, just because he is wild doesn't meant this couldn't be serious slip of course. I have a hard time seeing how it would be though and find it more likely that he still doesn't realize how he indicated that a scan on him would come up scum. I have a feeling we are trapped in the same WhiteEagle trap as last game where he should have been lynched, but he was town and just flapping around from this to that and it never got going. He was so chaotic that scum counterclaimed his role, and never got caught for it. (One of the scum from that game has showed up here and promptly claimed the same as WhiterEagle by the way)