Ah, I see.I don't think Sony will sweat too much about this and the worst case scenario will only be a small slap to the wrist. After all, the fact that MS was trying to advertise eau de toilette Destiny was pretty funny, even for Sony

Hey you're on to something there! LOL Unfortunately I can't quite my day job. Hehe

Oh and that "taste like salt" post you posted a few pages back had me rolling! :D

Semantically, this is a factually incorrect statement. There is no such product as an Xbox branded Destiny eau de toilette, so MS as not trying to advertise any such thing. MS was trying to advertise Destiny, using imagery and phrasing that did not breech copyright and trademark rules. And in terms of imagery (the bottle of Destiny perfume) they were fine. But in terms of their phrasing (Destiny is an epic new FPS) they crossed the line. Not really in a serious way, but the line was crossed and it's appropriate to stop using an ad that crosses the trademark or copyright line. Not so much because of any harm that the ad might do (which is no harm at all really in this case), but because if MS one day wants to have a go at someone for violating their copyright or trademarks the defendant could raise the Destiny ad, at least for PR purposes, to say, "well you've done it so pot meet kettle. You can give it out but you can't take it aye?" That sort of argument wouldn't fly in court, because one unprosecuted "crime" does not excuse another. But in the court of public opinion "you did it first" will always get traction and will cause some repuational damage.

And of course just because Sony or Acti/Bungie won't take action, doesn't mean some bitter fanboy won't lay a complaint to some advertising standards body to try to embarrass MS by having the authority rule that yes, MS done wrong here.

Semantically, this is a factually incorrect statement. There is no such product as an Xbox branded Destiny eau de toilette, so MS as not trying to advertise any such thing. MS was trying to advertise Destiny, using imagery and phrasing that did not breech copyright and trademark rules. And in terms of imagery (the bottle of Destiny perfume) they were fine. But in terms of their phrasing (Destiny is an epic new FPS) they crossed the line. Not really in a serious way, but the line was crossed and it's appropriate to stop using an ad that crosses the trademark or copyright line. Not so much because of any harm that the ad might do (which is no harm at all really in this case), but because if MS one day wants to have a go at someone for violating their copyright or trademarks the defendant could raise the Destiny ad, at least for PR purposes, to say, "well you've done it so pot meet kettle. You can give it out but you can't take it aye?" That sort of argument wouldn't fly in court, because one unprosecuted "crime" does not excuse another. But in the court of public opinion "you did it first" will always get traction and will cause some repuational damage.

And of course just because Sony or Acti/Bungie won't take action, doesn't mean some bitter fanboy won't lay a complaint to some advertising standards body to try to embarrass MS by having the authority rule that yes, MS done wrong here.

brb calling the Better Business Bureau.

not really.

if guys have to buy a fullprice copy without bundles, u make more money form the game

thats why sony make so much money with fifa

ms paid for exclusiv marketing and give it for free in bundles

sony got massive sales nevertheless

same applies to destiny.

if we talk about profits, it will be nearly the same

but its still a win for sony, because they finally got a big shooter associated first with the playstation brand

so no. massively more money is the whole wrong term

edit: that happend with watch dogs. but it will not for destiny. because we wont have a 2:1 ps4 to xb1 ratio. 

and if we add last gen too, it will be even more favour ms. wouldnt suprise me, if this game will sell nearly the same on xbox family like ps family

You don't think the ratio will be close to 2:1 in the PS4's favor?  I think you're in for a surprise.  Also, this isn't like the MS deal with Fifa where they were giving it away for free.  The Destiny PS4 bundle is only $10 cheaper than getting a PS4 and the game seperately, so Sony isn't missing out on much money, which will be made up greatly by the much larger HW boost to the PS4 and the extra SW sales.

Sony will make massively more money from Destiny than MS will, in both SW and HW sales.  Apples to apples, you know.

I don't know. When you add in the gob of money they spent for that advertisment deal, that may not be the case even WITH the added sales. But I wasn't refering to sales competition. I was refering to a "unti sold" competition. If there are five million more units in the wild, it's not an apples to apples comparison. The only way it could be apples to apples is if we look at attach rates (if you care about things being equal. If not, none of this matters).