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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
papamudd said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Some people seem to think the term indie is a term that describes quality.

 

Just because you have encountered indie games of varying quality does not mean that all indie games are off that quality such is a genetic fallacy.

The term "Indie" only describes the budget of the game.

So when I see comments like "Mainstream doesn't care about indie games" this only applies to the actual meaning of indie, which means a low budget. Quality wise, as long as a game is good and or people enjoy it then it will sell, and if it is good enough it will sell systems ala Minecraft. Whether the game is Indie or not only has bearing on how much the game is advertised, which has more to do with the publisher. If the game has a big budget, then the publisher will spend money to advertise the game in which it will reach mass markets. If the game is self-published, it will be much harder to get the game marketted, which is the major problem surronding Indie Developers especially those who self-publish, Marketting. However, it can be done, regardless of whether the game is "Indie" or not.

/rant

I expect better quality postings from you sir, and you have let me down. As another user has pointed out "indie" does not mean low budget or have anything to do with advertising. It means they are their own studio / development team independent of ownership from another party. While publishers do often help with budgets and advertising, that doesn't mean an "indie" game (or studio) can't work with a publisher on a specific title for advertising or budget.

also you wrote "off" instead of "of" and "genetic" where you meant "generic" please proof read and fact check then post again.

/fail 

Im talking about what the term is used to describing things as, ergo its connotation not its denotation. As for its actual definition, its merely a matter of semantics, and this doesn't really add to the discussion. So its fair to assume this post is made in jest.

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy


So Star citizen isn't indie anymore?



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Mohasus said:

So Star citizen isn't indie anymore?

As long as its being funded independently of another companies funding its indie.

I'm directly responding to the negative association of the term, that Indie = low quality. Because many people even on this site seem to think that if a game is Indie it is automatically crap.



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papamudd said:
Nem said:

Here is the problem with indie: Do i buy a discounted AAA or niche japanese game or for the same price i get a small game?

For me the choice is clear. I am getting more value on the discounted game. I have yet to buy an indie game, but there are a few that interest me. But most of the barrage of uninteresting games i dont even blink at.


to that same regard I don't buy every retail game as at least half of them hold no interest to me or I think are crap... Brink comes to mind...

meanwhile there are some indie games that I look forward to very much and are well worth the money for me, such as Transistor

I'm sorry but...

the fuck is a Brink?



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Mohasus said:

So Star citizen isn't indie anymore?

As long as its being funded independently of another companies funding its indie.

I'm directly responding to the negative association of the term, that Indie = low quality. Because many people even on this site seem to think that if a game is Indie it is automatically crap.


That's sad, most people think that way, but as the same time, or think " digital = indie = low quality " . Too many clichés.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
papamudd said:
Nem said:

Here is the problem with indie: Do i buy a discounted AAA or niche japanese game or for the same price i get a small game?

For me the choice is clear. I am getting more value on the discounted game. I have yet to buy an indie game, but there are a few that interest me. But most of the barrage of uninteresting games i dont even blink at.


to that same regard I don't buy every retail game as at least half of them hold no interest to me or I think are crap... Brink comes to mind...

meanwhile there are some indie games that I look forward to very much and are well worth the money for me, such as Transistor

I'm sorry but...

the fuck is a Brink?


A FPS with good potential that inspired Titanfall for wallrun : http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/brink



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m