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Jazz2K said:
Danman27 said:
Jazz2K said:
Danman27 said:
Ea access, the biggest rip off known to man. Sorry your friends are about to be massively disappointed by EAA


You can elaborate, don't be shy, unless you just want a piece of the hate pie... I would understand that though as it seems delicious, so many take a bite.

It's not the service that they advertised.  When I first heard about it, I thought it sounded cool. Then I heard that basically no games are getting early release for subscribers, and there's like 5 games. So yes, it's a rip off. 

What is it they advertised and are not giving exactly?

What sounded cool but isn't anymore?

5 games and counting, and what did you expect for early release? Madden 15 released a few days before official release so people could try it for a given time before just buying it... what exactly is a rip off in this?


We don't even know if the guy own an Xbox One. It's easy to bash a service that you can't have access. EA Access is the only "rental" service on Xbox One. Anyone of the game in the vault sells for $20-30 if not more at retail.  The value you get to play full 6-hour trial version of EA new release is worth the $29.99/year let alone the vault access. So far I got to play NFL 15 and NHL 15 two games I was probably not going to pick up because they cost to much. But It was a fun 12 hours spent with these game and now I am really considering getting NFL 15 once the price drop. 

You see so many people bashing EA Access if anything need to be bash it's the PS now rental price that's outrageous. 



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Jazz2K said:
Danman27 said:
Jazz2K said:
Danman27 said:
Ea access, the biggest rip off known to man. Sorry your friends are about to be massively disappointed by EAA


You can elaborate, don't be shy, unless you just want a piece of the hate pie... I would understand that though as it seems delicious, so many take a bite.

It's not the service that they advertised.  When I first heard about it, I thought it sounded cool. Then I heard that basically no games are getting early release for subscribers, and there's like 5 games. So yes, it's a rip off. 

What is it they advertised and are not giving exactly?

What sounded cool but isn't anymore?

5 games and counting, and what did you expect for early release? Madden 15 released a few days before official release so people could try it for a given time before just buying it... what exactly is a rip off in this?


What was advertised at first is that most releases would get early access, and that you would have a large library of games to choose from. 



yvanjean said:


We don't even know if the guy own an Xbox One. It's easy to bash a service that you can't have access. EA Access is the only "rental" service on Xbox One. Anyone of the game in the vault sells for $20-30 if not more at retail.  The value you get to play full 6-hour trial version of EA new release is worth the $29.99/year let alone the vault access. So far I got to play NFL 15 and NHL 15 two games I was probably not going to pick up because they cost to much. But It was a fun 12 hours spent with these game and now I am really considering getting NFL 15 once the price drop. 

You see so many people bashing EA Access if anything need to be bash it's the PS now rental price that's outrageous. 


I don't think he owns one to be frank. This thread is funny, I thought I would just stop posting and argue with people but kind of started to appreciate it lol. PSNow is still in beta so people give it every kind of free pass but again, nothing prevents Sony in the future to lock content in PSNow but you know they would never do such things because they "saved" gaming. 



Danman27 said:
Jazz2K said:

What is it they advertised and are not giving exactly?

What sounded cool but isn't anymore?

5 games and counting, and what did you expect for early release? Madden 15 released a few days before official release so people could try it for a given time before just buying it... what exactly is a rip off in this?


What was advertised at first is that most releases would get early access, and that you would have a large library of games to choose from. 


Aren't subscribers getting early access to some games right now?

You do understand that a library of games needs to be built? It's only available to X1 right now and I'm sure it'll expand later in the gen. How many games do you expect them to put in the vault if the gen started not even a year ago? Do you think they'll magicaly create backward compatibility by putting 360 games in the vault?



Jazz2K said:
yvanjean said:


We don't even know if the guy own an Xbox One. It's easy to bash a service that you can't have access. EA Access is the only "rental" service on Xbox One. Anyone of the game in the vault sells for $20-30 if not more at retail.  The value you get to play full 6-hour trial version of EA new release is worth the $29.99/year let alone the vault access. So far I got to play NFL 15 and NHL 15 two games I was probably not going to pick up because they cost to much. But It was a fun 12 hours spent with these game and now I am really considering getting NFL 15 once the price drop. 

You see so many people bashing EA Access if anything need to be bash it's the PS now rental price that's outrageous. 


I don't think he owns one to be frank. This thread is funny, I thought I would just stop posting and argue with people but kind of started to appreciate it lol. PSNow is still in beta so people give it every kind of free pass but again, nothing prevents Sony in the future to lock content in PSNow but you know they would never do such things because they "saved" gaming. 

Well I normally spend more then $1000 on video games a year. Therefore $29.99 is peanuts for me... I guess aif you had an extremely limited gaming budget, you might find the EA access to be a bad deal. But, you would assume someone with a limited budget wouldn't own most of the game in the vault and would still want to jump in on the EA access. 

Your thread was meant to discuss the fact that EA access might be a system seller. But, somehow people are quesiton the value of EA Access which is beyond me. At $5/month you can have friends over play NFL 25, Fifa 14 or trial of NFL 15/NHL15 that's less then a movie tickets that goes for more than 12$ now a day. If you were like me and din't own Battlefield 4 it's the cheapest way to experience the game and EA give you to choice 5$ for one month or $29.99 for a full year. Don't come on here and question EA Access for not having any value, you guys should be on Jazz2K for having the gutso of calling it a system seller.



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cpg716 said:
Playstation_prophet said:
Is this place full of trolls or what? EA access a SYSTEM SELLER? EA access isn't a good value and is a way for EA to drain every penny from you.

Hiding demos that were free in the past to create false value is a system seller?

How does saving $114 dollars the first day you sign up for EA Access not a good value?    The USED pricing (Gamestop) for all the titles you get in the Vault is $144.99..  USED.. not NEW..        and you pay $29.99 for one full year of access..   plus get 10% off new purchases ($5.00 savings each game) and FREE PREVIEW access to Games BEFORE they come out.. (for limited peiod)  ..        There was no Madden demo at all..  so it was "hidden"   EA Access got 6 hour free preview access before release.. there is a NHL 15 avilable to EVERYONE now..  nothing to do with EA ACCESS.  

People who keep saying it is not of VALUE seem to be confused as to what EA Access is.

This kind of logic reminds me of companies calling you and telling you you won a voucher for something you don't need or want in the first place. Unless someone likes every single game in the vault, but magically never managed to buy or play any of them, you most certainly don't save anywhere close to that. Also, I don't who's done the math, but I doubt $114 is an accurate number. I mean, how do you calculate this in the first place? Are these the cheapest second hand copies in America? Does everyone go to Gamestop to buy games? Aren't there any better deals for new copies (in the UK it's extremely common for new copies to be cheaper than used games).

And yes, Madden wasn't a demo, but it was closer to a demo than anything else. PS+ has something similar offers (full game trials). 

I find it kind of hard to defend the logic that you save that much. I have ps+ and despite sony's claims that I'm saving X amount of money, I know that it's far less than that, since I'm only interested in some of the games offererd and already own several of the ones they offer. 



yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:
On the vault circling... if they can keep 10 quality games (and reasonably new) no one will complain... take out FIFA 14 and put 15 next year. Take Peggle and put Plant vs Zombie, etc...

But we know from history that is easier for them to take out value with time than to add, of course they will disguise it or at least take out value of other things to put there and fake added value.


Wow can you be anymore cynical!!! Once a game join the vault it's there to stay. The vault is a storage of game that will be accessible to members of EA access. The vault will expend over the years. 

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ea-promises-not-to-remove-games-from-ea-access-fre/1100-6421567/

UFC, PLant vs Zombie, Inquisition, NBA Live 14....all coming soon.

Yes I must be cynical... Saying that if they decided to cycle games and keep around 5 good games on the EAA it would still hold the same value... changing Fifa 14 for 15 instead of keeping booth... thanks you have really great reading skills.

And you believe EA promises because they always deliver on them and are a good company I bet... they probably promised Origins and Simcity were going to be really bad, right? Owww not, it would be good, but then it wasn't.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Jazz2K said:
DonFerrari said:
Jazz2K said:


Everything has a risk but are we gonna stop doing anything because of some people's hate for a service/company? They don't know anything anyway just speculations. GWG on 360 was yours to keep once you downloaded them. GWG on X1 took Sony's approach and I personnaly hate that. But you can also redownload the games if you resub to XBLG once you unsubscribed. 

The thing is people just want to say it's bad for the sake of bashing EA or MS and have no arguments. "It could get ugly" yeah so is XBLG, PSN and especially PS Now but do we see people hate on this constantly? No, some see value in this, see the post of Superryo, another anecdoctal but in EAA's favor. I said it already, right now this service is good. If it ends up bad then people will just leave it's not like there are no other options.


So basically GwG and PS+ are basically the same model, the only difference being which have the games you preffer, and I don't see how it could get ugly, I just see how it could lose value if the games it offer start being worst.

On the so called value... EAA gives you right now 5 games for 30 dollars a year... PS+ give you 6 games a month for 50 dollars a year... GwG is 2 games or 1 per month for 60 dollars a year??? So this proves both Sony and MS take are more value packed than EAA right?

But on the risks... You can also perceive why people are more afraid of EA than Sony or MS service, EA have a thing for this (like Origin)... and let's not pretend that EAA get some flack from Sony fans because it is on MS console only, but don't pretend MS fans defend the service to the death basically because it is on X1.


Nothing prevents both Sony and/or MS from doing what some of you think EA "will" do with EAA. What exactly prevents them from releasing games or DLC exclusive to those who sub to PS+ or XBLG? Nothing, did they do it yet? When it happens they'll lose people, the same would happen if EA does something like that.

I think you should start to know what exactly is EAA and stop speculating about what it "I don't know the service but I'll still say it's bad". EAA gives you acces to games that are in the vault not that they give you 5 games for 30$ a year. There was 4 games at the start, now there are 5 and before you have been subscribed for 1 full year there will be more. If you don't see value in EA's games then I see no reason to subs. On the other hand Sony and MS offer 2 games per consoles every months (yes that means 4 games for Xbox and 6 for PS because they support one more console). They offer two random games, it doesn't mean these games are any good. It doesn't mean you know what games you are going to get. And once the month is over you can't get those games anymore unless you buy them. It's a plus imo because you pay for online but lets not act like they have to give us 2 games every months. Sony did this to start convincing their fanbase to pay for online, they kept bashing MS for charging for online so what would prevent these fans from bashing Sony for doing the same? Exactly.

I prefer publishers to show what they have to offer and give discounts than console makers giving random games. Imo this gives games more life than sitting on shelves or in the waiting of maybe being given away by console makers. Imo this will allow MS to focus on other things than securing Peggle2 to be given away. To each his own though. I wouldn't defend then opinion saying it doesn't appeal to them. But stating things like it's bad for industry and it's better to have PS+ or XBLG... ehh.

On the DLC yes, nothing prevent Sony or MS from doing it (but just for the games they publish, and sincerely if I had to bet the chances of Sony doingg it before EA is like 1 to 100 and MS certainly even being closer to wanting full DRM is less likely to implement it, even more when most of their games that have DLC are already needing Gold acc because of MP). And if you don't see EA doing anti-consumer measures like this or the ones in Origin, some of their games you had to create a acc to Origin to play some of the content, the only difference is that was free at the time, not much would be necessary to make it just on EAA. And yes, Sony and MS have locked content for people not on PS+ or Gold, meaning MP.

On the value side.. don't say I don't know what I'm talking and them say I said things I never said. The games in the vault are also random when entering and not sure if they are good (this is the same as in GwG and PS+) I just discussed the number of games one get on PS+, GwG and EAA and how much you pay (and didn't put the MP as part of that because I still think it should be free... and I would never sign to + just to get MP, I subbed just for the games). But if you can't see why Sony giving 72 games a year for 50, thinks EAA having 5 games for 30 as less valuable then there is nothing we can discuss than your intention to defend it to death. And the 6 games Sony offered that month will be available for as long as you have the sign if you just checked the download box (you don't have to really download the game), so I don't know from where you took that once the month is over you have to buy the games (even when saying the games are shit, so who would want to buy them, right?).

Console maker Sony, offer free games and discounts of all types for the games they publish and for third party, so your prefference here seems strange.

And you point here was to say it is a system seller, because your 2 friends bought because of it, that is great, but I don't remember the scale moving much (OR ANY) in favour of MS after EAA announcement and implementation. X1 sales still bellow WiiU and really really far from PS4. But as I said you can say anything is a system seller if 1 person or more bought because of it. So yeas EAA is fantastic value and a system Seller because it sold 2 systems for your friends and everyone who disagree with you must be defending Sony (so I guess there is like 3:1 fans of Sony agaisnt MS in the real world).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:
On the vault circling... if they can keep 10 quality games (and reasonably new) no one will complain... take out FIFA 14 and put 15 next year. Take Peggle and put Plant vs Zombie, etc...

But we know from history that is easier for them to take out value with time than to add, of course they will disguise it or at least take out value of other things to put there and fake added value.


Wow can you be anymore cynical!!! Once a game join the vault it's there to stay. The vault is a storage of game that will be accessible to members of EA access. The vault will expend over the years. 

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ea-promises-not-to-remove-games-from-ea-access-fre/1100-6421567/

UFC, PLant vs Zombie, Inquisition, NBA Live 14....all coming soon.

Yes I must be cynical... Saying that if they decided to cycle games and keep around 5 good games on the EAA it would still hold the same value... changing Fifa 14 for 15 instead of keeping booth... thanks you have really great reading skills.

And you believe EA promises because they always deliver on them and are a good company I bet... they probably promised Origins and Simcity were going to be really bad, right? Owww not, it would be good, but then it wasn't.

EA Access isn't like a blockbuster with limited storage space. Fifa 14 and 15 take up the most minimal amount of space on thier massive servers. They don't have to cycle their inventory. Once  a game goes in the vault it will be there (or at least till as long as the console lifetime). You're bashing the service for taking out games when they've already stated they would remain in the vault.  You've already claim that EA will take out value and the service give gamer fake value. 

You pay $5 --> you get access to 6 hour trial and 5 games that can be played for unlimited during your month.

I would like to personally give you $5 and you could delight us with every thing you were able to accomplish with this massive sum of money. Come on $5 doesn't get you anything and it's just foolish to claim EA Access doesn't give value. 

"We evaluated the EA Access subscription offering and decided that it does not bring the kind of value PlayStation customers have come to expect," 

If Microsoft game me the same coorporate bullsh$t statement , I would call them out on it and so should you.



yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:
yvanjean said:

Wow can you be anymore cynical!!! Once a game join the vault it's there to stay. The vault is a storage of game that will be accessible to members of EA access. The vault will expend over the years. 

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ea-promises-not-to-remove-games-from-ea-access-fre/1100-6421567/

UFC, PLant vs Zombie, Inquisition, NBA Live 14....all coming soon.

Yes I must be cynical... Saying that if they decided to cycle games and keep around 5 good games on the EAA it would still hold the same value... changing Fifa 14 for 15 instead of keeping booth... thanks you have really great reading skills.

And you believe EA promises because they always deliver on them and are a good company I bet... they probably promised Origins and Simcity were going to be really bad, right? Owww not, it would be good, but then it wasn't.

EA Access isn't like a blockbuster with limited storage space. Fifa 14 and 15 take up the most minimal amount of space on thier massive servers. They don't have to cycle their inventory. Once  a game goes in the vault it will be there (or at least till as long as the console lifetime). You're bashing the service for taking out games when they've already stated they would remain in the vault.  You've already claim that EA will take out value and the service give gamer fake value. 

You pay $5 --> you get access to 6 hour trial and 5 games that can be played for unlimited during your month.

I would like to personally give you $5 and you could delight us with every thing you were able to accomplish with this massive sum of money. Come on $5 doesn't get you anything and it's just foolish to claim EA Access doesn't give value. 

"We evaluated the EA Access subscription offering and decided that it does not bring the kind of value PlayStation customers have come to expect," 

If Microsoft game me the same coorporate bullsh$t statement , I would call them out on it and so should you.


Man please stop trying to spin what I said... I said that IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF they decided to cycle, but kept the same value no one would complain and the value would still be the same, because you won't need FIFA 14, 15, 16, 17 on the vault when Fifa 18 cames in (and of course EA can decide to keep all of them). What I said is that they could do that, and that they could take out value from the access (or add value there by taking value of other products putting them behind paid wall), but yes... you can keep spinning and distorting to make your point.

And again, PS+ users expect 72 games a year fo 50 bucks, so 5 games for 30 bucks isn't the value they are used to get. But yes you can keep spinning on saying sony or myself said EAA have no value instead of less value than what PS+ already give... and just in case Crysis and other EA games were on PS+ before so by having EAA besides that would mean that what before costed you 50 will now cost you 80... but yes that aint less value.

I'll wait to see you bashing MS for their bad PR and other BS... since I haven't saw you done that yet, altough with your low post count maybe I just haven't saw you in any other thread... but haven't saw you on DRM and kinect forced bundle.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."