I see this has turned into a religious debate. Not surprised, people really love getting off to discussing this topic on the internet. It is the absolute most pointless argument ever XD
I see this has turned into a religious debate. Not surprised, people really love getting off to discussing this topic on the internet. It is the absolute most pointless argument ever XD
Soriku said:
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It isn't "hard" to believe in a religion in that sense; one way would simply be to believe that it's harder to explain how we could exist without a God than explain the supernatural elements in the Bible, for instance. My point is simply that people, if they're being genuine, will acknowledge that it does sound strange to believe in, say, a floating ark containing two of each type of animal in the world. That said, they'll argue that it's easier to believe in that than believe in a world without God.
whatever said:
Ummm, what? Having a vivid imagination has nothing to do with distinguishing fact from fiction. You must not have kids. |
It does. Using the same method of the "study". 5 - 6 years old kids with vivid imagination usually believe what they imagine is true ( unless if they are constantly told that it is not ), tell them three different types of stories, the fictional contains their favorite hero. It would be difficult for them to tell fact from fiction.
Aura7541 said:
Nice try. You took the first sentence out out Wikipedia and left out this important tibit here: "However, the early Earth may have had significant amounts of iron and carbonate minerals able to neutralize the effects of the nitrites. When Bada performed the Miller-type experiment with the addition of iron and carbonate minerals, the products were rich in amino acids. This suggests the origin of significant amounts of amino acids may have occurred on Earth even with an atmosphere containing carbon dioxide and nitrogen." The Earth had a lot of iron because of meteors frequently crashing into the planet. Comets, which contain carbonate, also hit Earth often during its infancy. Because the Earth lacked an atmosphere at the time, both types of these spaces rocks easily entered the Earth without burning out. Also, the burden of proof is on you since the idea of a god or gods were started by no one else, but the people who created it. I may not be able to disprove the existence of a god or gods, but I can definitely disprove THE god you believe in. You are not fooling anyone here... |
May have had. Almost all early earth models have no significant iron and carbonite. The reason is the following:
Silica and alumina are the primary compostion of the crust. Heavy materials such as iron move into earths core because of a law called gravity. Secondly if most of the iron was not in the core of earth the lack of a magnetic field would allow radiation to destroy any rna formed. Without all of the other material that earth is composed of earth would lack a atmosphere (also bad). In a incoming meteor most already bury themselves. And the time that organisms magically arose on them before being covered with topsoil is a mere second in the age of the earth. This is why life arising on earth is unlikely.
If you want to choose a magical way for life to arise from nothing at least choose a meteorite from a different location which is more plausable then arising on earth or an Alien who taylored dna and seeded our planet. Most scientist agree these two theories are way more probable. The alien one though who created the alien?
And your burden of proof taken from Russel teapot is a illogical approach to science. Athiesm is a religion that requires proof not scientific at all. You would not get anywhere in science if you ruled out theories just because you don't have tangable evidence. But just because you don't have proof doesn't mean you can't use statistics to find out whats more probable and everything does better with a helping hand.
jonathanalis said: a question. what age should i start to show religion for my children? |
For me the age is not a problem, as long as you tell them that it is what you believe in and it might not be the ultimate truth. You should make them feel that they can choose what to believe in when they are ready. the concept of critical thinking is important.
Soriku said:
And here we go again with "derp, atheism is a religion". FYI if you want to make a point you probably shouldn't post bullshit like that. |
religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.
Belief- God does not exist (yes that is a belief because there is no proof to contradict.)
cultural system--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism
world views-- Atheists are superior to everyone and enlightened in some way, christians are silly elf whorshippers who contribute nothing to society because no scientist was ever ever ever a christian.
Ah, religious topics always make for a hilarious read.
Soriku said:
That's like saying that believing in green grass is a religion. Atheism is certainly not an organized collection of beliefs. All atheism is is the lack of belief in god. That's it. |
Yes you can literally start a religion in believing grass is green as long as you have a culture and world views on it want to start it? But science would tell you a different story grass is not actually green its just reflecting green light and is actually every other color but green.
Soriku said:
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Oh man... You cannot even define Athiesm without making a statement of your belief. The very essence of religion is belief.
Its so silly it hurts mentally athiests believe in not believing in something others believe in. <-- Does that make logical sense???
Im sorry maybe im being mean and sorta of disrespectful to your religion and for that i am truely sorry. Everyone should have the right to believe in what they believe in.