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Baalzamon said:
Didn't the US themselves train ISIS soldiers?

Haven't ever heard that, the U.S government however basically gave this guys a lot of weapons

http://www.alternet.org/world/how-isis-ended-stocked-american-weapons



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Love the band, hate the terrorist group.



osed125 said:
Baalzamon said:
Didn't the US themselves train ISIS soldiers?

Haven't ever heard that, the U.S government however basically gave this guys a lot of weapons

http://www.alternet.org/world/how-isis-ended-stocked-american-weapons

http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/isis-trained-by-us-government/

I've seen numerous websites saying the same thing. I don't know if they are just extremely political sites, or if it is legitimate, but it is rather ironic if true. It seems like every one of our problems in the Middle East turns into yet another problem that we caused ourselves.



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It's the same old story, as with Osama Bin Laden or the Talibans: following his natural imperialist and interventionist impulse to gain control over the Middle East, US trained and gave logistical and economical support to them to desestabilize Al Assad secular Regime in Syria (Yes; the armed opposition to Al Assad were mainly islamic fundamentalists supported by the EU and US). Then, taking advantage of the weakness of the Irak military and administration (caused by the US invasion), the ISIS took control of several key areas and military quarters in the north of the country, getting more and better equipment. This is also what happened in Libya: US and the EU supported the armed oppostion composed by muslim fundamentalists and muslim mercenaries. When they were succesful in overthrowing Gaddafi, part of them moved to Mali, seized control of the north of the country and imposed an islamic sharia state there, forcing France to intervene.

So, as previously said, it is the same old story: western, imperialist, capitalist governments give weapons and economical, logistical and political support to fundamentalists to attack communist, socialist and secular states (usually pretending to get control of the area through new puppet governments, in order to exploit their natural resources, mainly petroleum and gas, or to get new possitions against powers like China or Russia). Then they and their citizens get what they have planted in the form of radicals getting to power, innocent people geting displaced or murdered, regions being desestabilized and western citizens getting kidnapped and killed.

TL,DR: It is US and EU fault. These bastards (ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc.) didn't had power when they were under control of the former Afghanistan, Irak and Syrian regimes, and they only got weapons and money when US and EU governments started desestabilizing countries and supporting them in pursuit of their own economical or geopolitical interests.



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I talked to someone that lives in the warzone and it made me think about how lucky people in the west are. We should think about that more often.



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ISIS is the greatest opportunity to befall humanity to end religious extremism. All extremists and terrorists are now not fighting for a faceless and hidden organisation (like Al-Quaida), but they are a clear organized fighting force. Clearing them out of the way could mean a more lasting peace is within reach for Irak and Syria.



They are the scariest extremist organization to exist since the taliban. Something needs to be done to stop them before they have a strong footing in the region.



I'd say: bomb them as flat as you can and treat everyone supporting them as terrorists.



people keep saying nuke them.. that leaves fallout. drop a MOAB instead lol



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