Only things this "study" indicates, the premium XBox 360 model seems by far the most popular (AFAIK the Elite has been made available in very limited quatities, maybe this to give the impression of overwhelming demand, the 60B PS3 also was a lot more popular than the 20GB model, so maybe not that surprising with regard to the Core, consumers seem to be feature aware to a certain point). RRoD failures seem to account for 60% of all failures, not much more than that...

they really need the die shrink to 65 n across the board on the gpu and cpu! Probaby like Ford and the Pinto! what are acceptable losses???? In Fords case people died!

I wonder why Ibm and ati who's name is in the 360 would'nt be more in a rush to push out the 65n after  2 and a half years!

When they go from 90n to 65n it will be a lot cooler more energy savings!

And Ibm was able to drop the cell to 45n! I guess people forget MS is a Software company building electronics from the cheapest bidder! Sony is an electronics company!

Nvidia made the die shrink to 65n along time ago thats why PS3 has no failures or un mentioned! the 7600 series was part of that shrink hence no fan was needed on the Gpu on the low end cards, just a heat sink!

But the 360 was high end tech when released 2 1/2 years ago it competed well with the Graphica cards in PC's.

Now PC graphic's cards like the 8800 gtx and Nvidia's latest entry 9000 series definetly blow away anything on any console!

The gpu in PS3 was outdated by nvidia's best chip when it realeased! a year latter!

and hardware problems the original PS2 was a beast for disk read failures!
did that stop us from buying it!

Ya ninty boys laughed and said my cartridges never do that!

@ Daddo Splat

It's really not IBM or ATi's fault, these chips would not cause mass overheating problems within a properly built system. Although ATi and IBM made those chips I think the rights for these chips lies with Microsoft, both chips are pretty good for 2005 tech though (that's why I initially thought the device seemed better than the original XBox was, but I was wrong considering built quality and how everything's connected together). Asian manufacturers blame Microsoft for buying their cheapest components (which aren't suitable for all uses) while not doing enough R&D and testing before putting the device onto the market.

Without RRoD, this and other reports seem to indicate other failures still put 360 failure rates well above industry standards. I'll predict disc scratching and DVD drive failure will increase in due time due to drive wearing (the 360 drives are really just cheaper versions of PC drives and were not designed to endure the constant strain they receive with 360 software, PC games are usually installed on harddrive).

ack...attack of the !

Lol glad I don't have an Xbox360 cause it probably would be dead by now.

My PS3 has been up and running for the past 2 months, either playing games or doing Folding @Home and this is 24/7.

I haven't shut it off since Chrismas...

I think that sums it all :

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EElFlyVlyluEAGwwQU.php

Link to the full story that went pretty unnoticed back then.

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Gaming/Console/L3R2T2S6?page=1

Zero Hero said: "The majority of Xbox 360 owners have had a great experience with their consoles." See!! They even poke fun at them for having to go through more than one console. :P

 

 

they mean xbox, and xbox 360..... are you retarded?

The worst thing for MS is that due to the brittle soldering alloy and the bad mobo's design that allows eccessive heat deformations in the wrong parts, at least the first 6 millions consoles, perhaps even the first 10 millions are at risk of RROD (*)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems#Overheating

(*) MS already stuffed the market with at least 6 millions consoles BEFORE summer 2006's heat made the problem emerge, but it's not known how many other consoles were already built but not shipped yet at that time.

MikeB said: @ Daddo Splat I wonder why Ibm and ati who's name is in the 360 would'nt be more in a rush to push out the 65n after 2 and a half years! It's really not IBM or ATi's fault, these chips would not cause mass overheating problems within a properly built system. Although ATi and IBM made those chips I think the rights for these chips lies with Microsoft, both chips are pretty good for 2005 tech though (that's why I initially thought the device seemed better than the original XBox was, but I was wrong considering built quality and how everything's connected together). Asian manufacturers blame Microsoft for buying their cheapest components (which aren't suitable for all uses) while not doing enough R&D and testing before putting the device onto the market. Without RRoD, this and other reports seem to indicate other failures still put 360 failure rates well above industry standards. I'll predict disc scratching and DVD drive failure will increase in due time due to drive wearing (the 360 drives are really just cheaper versions of PC drives and were not designed to endure the constant strain they receive with 360 software, PC games are usually installed on harddrive).

Didnt say it was I just said thier name is involved in the product most people who are into gaming now the cpu and gpu are and its a heat related issue rrod! a die shrink would ease this problem immensly!

My son's failed but his room was 95 degrees with 3 other kids playing for 5 hours strait! MS fixxed it a year and a half ago its been fine since! as for h=how many drives will go out I dont know!

 The fact his drive works after 2 1/2 years is way better then my original PS2 9 months which if you have gamed a while everyone knows the original PS2 had the cheapest dvds drives with disk read errors all the time!

Its just crap we put up with to game! I am glad to see the PS3's blu ray drive seams more reliable so far!

Strategyking92 said: Zero Hero said: "The majority of Xbox 360 owners have had a great experience with their consoles." See!! They even poke fun at them for having to go through more than one console. :P     they mean xbox, and xbox 360..... are you retarded?

I hope to God you are joking...