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they really need the die shrink to 65 n across the board on the gpu and cpu! Probaby like Ford and the Pinto! what are acceptable losses???? In Fords case people died!

I wonder why Ibm and ati who's name is in the 360 would'nt be more in a rush to push out the 65n after  2 and a half years!

When they go from 90n to 65n it will be a lot cooler more energy savings!

And Ibm was able to drop the cell to 45n! I guess people forget MS is a Software company building electronics from the cheapest bidder! Sony is an electronics company!

Nvidia made the die shrink to 65n along time ago thats why PS3 has no failures or un mentioned! the 7600 series was part of that shrink hence no fan was needed on the Gpu on the low end cards, just a heat sink!

But the 360 was high end tech when released 2 1/2 years ago it competed well with the Graphica cards in PC's.

Now PC graphic's cards like the 8800 gtx and Nvidia's latest entry 9000 series definetly blow away anything on any console!

The gpu in PS3 was outdated by nvidia's best chip when it realeased! a year latter!

and hardware problems the original PS2 was a beast for disk read failures!
did that stop us from buying it!

Ya ninty boys laughed and said my cartridges never do that!