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MikeB said:

@ Daddo Splat

I wonder why Ibm and ati who's name is in the 360 would'nt be more in a rush to push out the 65n after 2 and a half years!


It's really not IBM or ATi's fault, these chips would not cause mass overheating problems within a properly built system. Although ATi and IBM made those chips I think the rights for these chips lies with Microsoft, both chips are pretty good for 2005 tech though (that's why I initially thought the device seemed better than the original XBox was, but I was wrong considering built quality and how everything's connected together). Asian manufacturers blame Microsoft for buying their cheapest components (which aren't suitable for all uses) while not doing enough R&D and testing before putting the device onto the market.

Without RRoD, this and other reports seem to indicate other failures still put 360 failure rates well above industry standards. I'll predict disc scratching and DVD drive failure will increase in due time due to drive wearing (the 360 drives are really just cheaper versions of PC drives and were not designed to endure the constant strain they receive with 360 software, PC games are usually installed on harddrive).


Didnt say it was I just said thier name is involved in the product most people who are into gaming now the cpu and gpu are and its a heat related issue rrod! a die shrink would ease this problem immensly!

My son's failed but his room was 95 degrees with 3 other kids playing for 5 hours strait! MS fixxed it a year and a half ago its been fine since! as for h=how many drives will go out I dont know!

 The fact his drive works after 2 1/2 years is way better then my original PS2 9 months which if you have gamed a while everyone knows the original PS2 had the cheapest dvds drives with disk read errors all the time!

Its just crap we put up with to game! I am glad to see the PS3's blu ray drive seams more reliable so far!