Amazes me how many people dont know how to determine profit, loss, revenue, cost of revenue. No where does this information make it clear that the Xbox One portion of the Xbox business is losing money. Of course the cost of revenue for a product that costs more to produce is going to be higher. So they spent 2.1B more and made 1.7B more that doesnt mean they had a loss. One year I sell product that costs $10 to produce and I sell it for $50. The next year I sell a product for $70 that costs $50 to produce. Yes mot cost of revenue will be higher compared to the previous year.

Also the talk of unhappy shareholders is a fallacy anyway. It is something that a few shareholders with public voices have said and more so a few things that some speculative analysts have said. Most institutional investors dont give a rats ass.  Really they want MS to build the Xbox brand because it keeps MS in the minds of consumers, but just businesses. 

In before the artards say "It doesn't matter because MS has all da moniez!"

the Xbox division has never been profitable. The only reason why they keep it around is to invade your living room area.

oh really?

Why do all the financial reports say otherwise?

Think Goosh is being sarcastic there.

I critisised the mods quite frequently over the last months, but I have to give credit to them now.
Adjusting the thread title like that was really important so some people here might actually get it.

Well done.

Well i had a 360 , which then lead me to buy a windows phone (for achievements) when it came time to upgrade, then when it came to getting a tablet, a Surface was the obvious choice.

I now also have a Xbox One ...i also have a laptop running windows 7.I have one account that i add money to which i can use across all those devices.

The point im making is , im now an exclusive microsoft user when it comes to technology and that started with xbox...If for whatever reason they were to sell the xbox brand.I Would know longer feel the need to have all my other devices , be from microsoft.

To me that is what the xbox brand does very well for Microsoft , more so maybe than straight up making profit itself.

Just my 2 cents anyway.

Which was why MS originally wanted to push the media features on the X1. The problem is that MS was trying to take a declining market and now, they're paying a dear price for that. Who needs a cablebox to connect it to the X1 when I can simply watch movies and shows on Hulu and Netflix on my PC and tablet?

Look at N4G comments please.
They really think MS lost 400m Dollar.