By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming Discussion - Weekly XB1 overtaking Wii U thread: WIll it happen this year?

 

Who will be on top when January 1, 2015 arrives?

Wii U 810 89.40%
 
Xbox One 93 10.26%
 
Total:903
Seece on 08 August 2014
archbrix said:
Seece said:
I can't really take anyone seriously that says Captain Toad and Bayonetta are going to raise the baseline of WiiU.



See, even he finds the idea infeasible.



 

Around the Network
OfficerRaichu15 on 08 August 2014
Seece said:
Viper1 said:
Seece said:

Watchdogs released during a period people knew a cheaper Xbox was coming ....

And when the cheaper Xbox came out, how well did that turn out?

Seece said:

We've not seen sales for July yet, all we know is it did around 200k in June in US.

But it's a very dry period for XB1 (and will continue until Madden later this month) whereas WiiU just got a huge game and it's just on par with XB1. What does that tell you?

What do you think sales would look like if WiiU didn't get any big game and XB1 just got Halo? XB1 would be outselling it X4.

So you are ignoring VGC numbers and solely basing your prediction around assumed NPD figures. 

Also, how is this not a dry period for Wii U just the same?   Didn't Mario Kart 8 and Watch Dogs both launch at practically the same time ago? 

Cheaper Xbox has been ineffective (partially, it still raised sales in US to 200k. Because Titanfall for $399 ruined the value proposition, MS shot themselves in the foot. When more $399 bundles come along like the Madden and Sunset ones, they will be more appealing.

Yes I'm ignoring VGC figures (for now). What is and isn't dry for WiiU? MK is still clearly having an effect on sales.

Longer than what most people thought :P

some thought it would last 3 weeks instead it has lasted 2 months and its still going



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

BeElite on 08 August 2014
Seece said:
BeElite said:
Seece said:

What do you think sold so many PS360's? Like they're even comparable. Of course multiplats will increase the baseline of XB1, it's common sense. The proof is there FYI. 1.9m COD sales.

Toad and Bayo ehhhh.   PS360 split the marlet, PS4 is domminating.  X1 will get marginal if at all noticable bumps.  Maybe neither of you can be taken seriosuly. 

Don't like repeating myself but, look at a market like US. 360 dominated PS3 there. Yet PS3 still got noticeable bumps during multiplat releases there. Explain?


Name some games, and not GTA FF MGS that are looked on as very PS ish.



Seece on 08 August 2014
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:

Cheaper Xbox has been ineffective (partially, it still raised sales in US to 200k. Because Titanfall for $399 ruined the value proposition, MS shot themselves in the foot. When more $399 bundles come along like the Madden and Sunset ones, they will be more appealing.

Yes I'm ignoring VGC figures (for now). What is and isn't dry for WiiU? MK is still clearly having an effect on sales.

Longer than what most people thought :P

some thought it would last 3 weeks instead it has lasted 2 months and its still going

June bump in US was impressive, lets see how it does throughout July, it will definitely be up YOY. But the overall gains are poor and too low to make a difference.



 

OfficerRaichu15 on 08 August 2014
Seece said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:

Cheaper Xbox has been ineffective (partially, it still raised sales in US to 200k. Because Titanfall for $399 ruined the value proposition, MS shot themselves in the foot. When more $399 bundles come along like the Madden and Sunset ones, they will be more appealing.

Yes I'm ignoring VGC figures (for now). What is and isn't dry for WiiU? MK is still clearly having an effect on sales.

Longer than what most people thought :P

some thought it would last 3 weeks instead it has lasted 2 months and its still going

June bump in US was impressive, lets see how it does throughout July, it will definitely be up YOY. But the overall gains are poor and too low to make a difference.

so was xbox one and the price cut :P

400 million loss about as bad as last years wii u problems



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

Around the Network
Seece on 08 August 2014
BeElite said:
Seece said:
BeElite said:
Seece said:

What do you think sold so many PS360's? Like they're even comparable. Of course multiplats will increase the baseline of XB1, it's common sense. The proof is there FYI. 1.9m COD sales.

Toad and Bayo ehhhh.   PS360 split the marlet, PS4 is domminating.  X1 will get marginal if at all noticable bumps.  Maybe neither of you can be taken seriosuly. 

Don't like repeating myself but, look at a market like US. 360 dominated PS3 there. Yet PS3 still got noticeable bumps during multiplat releases there. Explain?


Name some games, and not GTA FF MGS that are looked on as very PS ish.

Pretty much every plat that gave 360 a boost, gave PS3 a boost, go back and look at our charts, it's all there. Hence the reason PS3 sold 25m in the US, that wasn't down to exclusives.



 

Seece on 08 August 2014
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:

June bump in US was impressive, lets see how it does throughout July, it will definitely be up YOY. But the overall gains are poor and too low to make a difference.

so was xbox one and the price cut :P

400 million loss about as bad as last years wii u problems

No idea where that 400m figure comes from, that's Xbox division not Xbox One.

Price cut had a bigger impact in US than MK did on WiiU, and we've not seen how it's held up yet, lets wait for next thursday to see.

Like I said tho, the Titanfall bundle completely ruined the value prop of the $399 kinectless bundle. MS will need to rectify that this holiday if they want to sell well.



 

Landguy on 08 August 2014
kitler53 said:
standard holiday to non-holiday sales ratio would predict that this holiday xbox sells 4M and wiiU sells 3M a difference of 1 M. currently xbox lags wiiU by 1.9M.

so math says wiiU will still be ahead at the end of 2014.

Why do you keep using logic in your response to these threads.  That is most commonly frowned upon.  Either you trash on of the two companies or you will be Banned for sure!

OT: I basically agree.  MarioKart 8 has proved to stop the slide of the WiiU greatly.  Nintendo consoles also sell really well at the holidays.



It is near the end of the end....

OfficerRaichu15 on 08 August 2014
Seece said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:

June bump in US was impressive, lets see how it does throughout July, it will definitely be up YOY. But the overall gains are poor and too low to make a difference.

so was xbox one and the price cut :P

400 million loss about as bad as last years wii u problems

No idea where that 400m figure comes from, that's Xbox division not Xbox One.

Price cut had a bigger impact in US than MK did on WiiU, and we've not seen how it's held up yet, lets wait for next thursday to see.

Like I said tho, the Titanfall bundle completely ruined the value prop of the $399 kinectless bundle. MS will need to rectify that this holiday if they want to sell well.

Theres a thread about it right here

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=188079



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

Seece on 08 August 2014
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:

No idea where that 400m figure comes from, that's Xbox division not Xbox One.

Price cut had a bigger impact in US than MK did on WiiU, and we've not seen how it's held up yet, lets wait for next thursday to see.

Like I said tho, the Titanfall bundle completely ruined the value prop of the $399 kinectless bundle. MS will need to rectify that this holiday if they want to sell well.

Theres a thread about it right here

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=188079

Do you know what it actually means Raichu?