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Who will be on top when January 1, 2015 arrives?

Wii U 810 89.40%
 
Xbox One 93 10.26%
 
Total:903
Viper1 on 13 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
zorg1000 said:

Captian Toad is 2014 in US/Japan, Europe is the only place it got delayed. Amiibos are scheduled to launch alongside Smash Bros which has a Holiday 2014 release. Hyrule Warriors will sell based on being a Zelda spinoff not because of Dynasty Warriors.

Oh my bad, I thought Captain Toad was delayed everywhere. I disagree on Hyrule Warriors, it has to sell to both fans of Zelda AND the DW franchise. Very limited audience. 

It doesn't have to sell to both.   I know a lot of people, myself included, that are not DW fans but are most certainly picking up Hyrule Warriors.

This game isn't a venn diagram.



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OfficerRaichu15 on 13 August 2014
Seece said:
Fusioncode said:
Seece said:


Not really. Watchdogs gave PS4 a bigger bump than MK did WiiU. Eveything else that has released on WiiU has done nothing hardware wise, so yes, Smash and Zelda (and even that isn't going to be big) are WiiU's only hardware sellers left, PS4 is going to have multiple games that will shift significant hardware, most we don't even know about yet.

Of course Nintendo could bring something out for WiiU that could be a system seller, totally believeable. But from what we know and can guess, all there is is Smash and Zelda.

Hey wasn't the WiiU supposed to sell 700k the week Mario Kart released? 

7m the week of MK I believe?!

I just can't quite grasp how (after everything we've seen) people think WiiU can compete with a system that has full third party support and despite summer lul (which nearly always happens) has the support of the public. Lest we forget XB1 overtook WiiU in the US in a matter of months, and UK in 2 weeks. The west is on board with XB1 and sales will pick up late August onwards. Won't be anywhere near PS4, muliplats won't shift anywhere near as many XB1's as they will PS4's but that doesn't mean XB1's won't sell well, people can't seem to understand that.

WiiU, with that release list I just posted above, will appeal to Nintendo fans and nobody else. Why do they not get this? The proof is in the pudding. MK Q shipped 500k, amazing YoY, terrible number on its own.

Outside of Nintendo fans, nobody seems to be interested in WiiU, last 20+ months have proven that.

I could say that about xbox one everywhere but US and UK



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

Seece on 13 August 2014
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:
Fusioncode said:
Seece said:


Not really. Watchdogs gave PS4 a bigger bump than MK did WiiU. Eveything else that has released on WiiU has done nothing hardware wise, so yes, Smash and Zelda (and even that isn't going to be big) are WiiU's only hardware sellers left, PS4 is going to have multiple games that will shift significant hardware, most we don't even know about yet.

Of course Nintendo could bring something out for WiiU that could be a system seller, totally believeable. But from what we know and can guess, all there is is Smash and Zelda.

Hey wasn't the WiiU supposed to sell 700k the week Mario Kart released? 

7m the week of MK I believe?!

I just can't quite grasp how (after everything we've seen) people think WiiU can compete with a system that has full third party support and despite summer lul (which nearly always happens) has the support of the public. Lest we forget XB1 overtook WiiU in the US in a matter of months, and UK in 2 weeks. The west is on board with XB1 and sales will pick up late August onwards. Won't be anywhere near PS4, muliplats won't shift anywhere near as many XB1's as they will PS4's but that doesn't mean XB1's won't sell well, people can't seem to understand that.

WiiU, with that release list I just posted above, will appeal to Nintendo fans and nobody else. Why do they not get this? The proof is in the pudding. MK Q shipped 500k, amazing YoY, terrible number on its own.

Outside of Nintendo fans, nobody seems to be interested in WiiU, last 20+ months have proven that.

I could say that about xbox one everywhere but US and UK

No you couldn't because it's been out 9 months not 21.

Regardless, US + UK are far more bigger than Japan where WiiU has the advantage. Europe is a stalemate and will go in XB1's favour.



 

Fusioncode on 13 August 2014
Seece said:
Fusioncode said:
Seece said:


Not really. Watchdogs gave PS4 a bigger bump than MK did WiiU. Eveything else that has released on WiiU has done nothing hardware wise, so yes, Smash and Zelda (and even that isn't going to be big) are WiiU's only hardware sellers left, PS4 is going to have multiple games that will shift significant hardware, most we don't even know about yet.

Of course Nintendo could bring something out for WiiU that could be a system seller, totally believeable. But from what we know and can guess, all there is is Smash and Zelda.

Hey wasn't the WiiU supposed to sell 700k the week Mario Kart released? 

7m the week of MK I believe?!

I just can't quite grasp how (after everything we've seen) people think WiiU can compete with a system that has full third party support and despite summer lul (which nearly always happens) has the support of the public. Lest we forget XB1 overtook WiiU in the US in a matter of months, and UK in 2 weeks. The west is on board with XB1 and sales will pick up late August onwards. Won't be anywhere near PS4, muliplats won't shift anywhere near as many XB1's as they will PS4's but that doesn't mean XB1's won't sell well, people can't seem to understand that.

WiiU, with that release list I just posted above, will appeal to Nintendo fans and nobody else. Why do they not get this? The proof is in the pudding. MK Q shipped 500k, amazing YoY, terrible number on its own.

Outside of Nintendo fans, nobody seems to be interested in WiiU, last 20+ months have proven that.

Yup and the XBO doesn't even have it's heavy hitters yet. No Halo, no Gears, no Fable. WiiU on the other hand has a 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong, Monster Hunter, Wii Fit, the list goes on. Even with all that, a massive headstart, and larger recognition in Japan it's barely selling better. If we look at it objectively Mario Kart didn't have the impact it should have. I mean compare it to Halo 3 for the 360 or MGS4 for the PS3. It's just not on the same level. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

OfficerRaichu15 on 13 August 2014
Seece said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Seece said:
Fusioncode said:
Seece said:


Not really. Watchdogs gave PS4 a bigger bump than MK did WiiU. Eveything else that has released on WiiU has done nothing hardware wise, so yes, Smash and Zelda (and even that isn't going to be big) are WiiU's only hardware sellers left, PS4 is going to have multiple games that will shift significant hardware, most we don't even know about yet.

Of course Nintendo could bring something out for WiiU that could be a system seller, totally believeable. But from what we know and can guess, all there is is Smash and Zelda.

Hey wasn't the WiiU supposed to sell 700k the week Mario Kart released? 

7m the week of MK I believe?!

I just can't quite grasp how (after everything we've seen) people think WiiU can compete with a system that has full third party support and despite summer lul (which nearly always happens) has the support of the public. Lest we forget XB1 overtook WiiU in the US in a matter of months, and UK in 2 weeks. The west is on board with XB1 and sales will pick up late August onwards. Won't be anywhere near PS4, muliplats won't shift anywhere near as many XB1's as they will PS4's but that doesn't mean XB1's won't sell well, people can't seem to understand that.

WiiU, with that release list I just posted above, will appeal to Nintendo fans and nobody else. Why do they not get this? The proof is in the pudding. MK Q shipped 500k, amazing YoY, terrible number on its own.

Outside of Nintendo fans, nobody seems to be interested in WiiU, last 20+ months have proven that.

I could say that about xbox one everywhere but US and UK

No you couldn't because it's been out 9 months not 21.

Regardless, US + UK are far more bigger than Japan where WiiU has the advantage. Europe is a stalemate and will go in XB1's favour.

because of the uk only?

I'm thinking of france and germany where wii u is doing better.



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

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Fusioncode on 13 August 2014
Viper1 said:
Fusioncode said:
zorg1000 said:

Captian Toad is 2014 in US/Japan, Europe is the only place it got delayed. Amiibos are scheduled to launch alongside Smash Bros which has a Holiday 2014 release. Hyrule Warriors will sell based on being a Zelda spinoff not because of Dynasty Warriors.

Oh my bad, I thought Captain Toad was delayed everywhere. I disagree on Hyrule Warriors, it has to sell to both fans of Zelda AND the DW franchise. Very limited audience. 

It doesn't have to sell to both.   I know a lot of people, myself included, that are not DW fans but are most certainly picking up Hyrule Warriors.

This game isn't a venn diagram.

Venn diagram! That's the phrase I was thinking off but couldn't come up with. Anyways, I disagree. Zelda and Musou are two totally different franchises. Now I love both so I'll buy the game day one but I think I'm in the minority.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

OfficerRaichu15 on 13 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
Viper1 said:
Fusioncode said:
zorg1000 said:

Captian Toad is 2014 in US/Japan, Europe is the only place it got delayed. Amiibos are scheduled to launch alongside Smash Bros which has a Holiday 2014 release. Hyrule Warriors will sell based on being a Zelda spinoff not because of Dynasty Warriors.

Oh my bad, I thought Captain Toad was delayed everywhere. I disagree on Hyrule Warriors, it has to sell to both fans of Zelda AND the DW franchise. Very limited audience. 

It doesn't have to sell to both.   I know a lot of people, myself included, that are not DW fans but are most certainly picking up Hyrule Warriors.

This game isn't a venn diagram.

Venn diagram! That's the phrase I was thinking off but couldn't come up with. Anyways, I disagree. Zelda and Musou are two totally different franchises. Now I love both so I'll buy the game day one but I think I'm in the minority.

actually it might help wii u go look at the lastest japanese sales :P



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

Seece on 13 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
Seece said:

7m the week of MK I believe?!

I just can't quite grasp how (after everything we've seen) people think WiiU can compete with a system that has full third party support and despite summer lul (which nearly always happens) has the support of the public. Lest we forget XB1 overtook WiiU in the US in a matter of months, and UK in 2 weeks. The west is on board with XB1 and sales will pick up late August onwards. Won't be anywhere near PS4, muliplats won't shift anywhere near as many XB1's as they will PS4's but that doesn't mean XB1's won't sell well, people can't seem to understand that.

WiiU, with that release list I just posted above, will appeal to Nintendo fans and nobody else. Why do they not get this? The proof is in the pudding. MK Q shipped 500k, amazing YoY, terrible number on its own.

Outside of Nintendo fans, nobody seems to be interested in WiiU, last 20+ months have proven that.

Yup and the XBO doesn't even have it's heavy hitters yet. No Halo, no Gears, no Fable. WiiU on the other hand has a 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong, Monster Hunter, Wii Fit, the list goes on. Even with all that, a massive headstart, and larger recognition in Japan it's barely selling better. If we look at it objectively Mario Kart didn't have the impact it should have. I mean compare it to Halo 3 for the 360 or MGS4 for the PS3. It's just not on the same level. 

Yup, that's what I'm talking about. All these people raving about WiiU beating XB1 at 60k a week as if it's a good thing. 60k is just .. awful (for both consoles, yes I know). For MK to be successful and put WiiU on a good path WiiU should still be riding the wave and selling 200k+ a week.

During MK Wii Q, Wii shipped 5.17m. That's TEN times what WiiU did.



 

Fusioncode on 13 August 2014
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Fusioncode said:
Viper1 said:

It doesn't have to sell to both.   I know a lot of people, myself included, that are not DW fans but are most certainly picking up Hyrule Warriors.

This game isn't a venn diagram.

Venn diagram! That's the phrase I was thinking off but couldn't come up with. Anyways, I disagree. Zelda and Musou are two totally different franchises. Now I love both so I'll buy the game day one but I think I'm in the minority.

actually it might help wii u go look at the lastest japanese sales :P


COMG numbers are less than 50 I believe. Not a flop but nothing spectacular. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

OfficerRaichu15 on 13 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:
Fusioncode said:
Viper1 said:

It doesn't have to sell to both.   I know a lot of people, myself included, that are not DW fans but are most certainly picking up Hyrule Warriors.

This game isn't a venn diagram.

Venn diagram! That's the phrase I was thinking off but couldn't come up with. Anyways, I disagree. Zelda and Musou are two totally different franchises. Now I love both so I'll buy the game day one but I think I'm in the minority.

actually it might help wii u go look at the lastest japanese sales :P


COMG numbers are less than 50 I believe. Not a flop but nothing spectacular. 

its at 50 so that still leaves it up for a possible 100k first week which isnt bad for a zelda game :P



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3