That's not what I'm saying.

FYI you guys, what are your predictions for shipments this Q? Yes I said shipments, so shoot me. I'm intrigued.

I'm not a person who thinks the shipments for wii u are high but ill go with

350k wii u

EDIT: change that 750k xbox one

There's also the factor of X1 has a shit ton of consoles on store shelves (my guess over 500k-600k) while wiiu probably has less than 250k, but i guess tht doesn't affect shipment as much.

But anywayz, you believe wat you will. Your post obviously have alot of facts in it, but things can change like wats been proving so many times before. I'll just wait to the time comes i guess. I dont want to fight something we wont agree on ever. Just make sure to not pull anything funny if your wrong on either predictions ok? :)

Madden NFL bundle for $399.99 should help XB1 sales in August.

You seem to mistake my opinion for fact, not everything I say is fact, I wasn't aware I had to put a disclaimer before everything I said tbone You need to learn to let people have their own opinions, you can argue against them but don't say something is talking 'fact' all the time.

I won't be wrong (fact :P) and I'll come remind you of this thread and my various predictions in January! (or sooner).

Just an FYI again, Nintendo expect 9.77m shipped end of March. So about 9.4m end of Dec, and 9.1m sold. So you better hope they've underprediction by 1m, something they've not done for 7 years. And yes I know you don't like history lessons but they're better to base predictions on than the future which is unknown.

X1: 1.2mil-1.8mil (this really depends on a number of factors)

WiiU: 300k-350k (if a price drop comes in Sept, then i raise it to 400k-500k)

I'll make sure of it. I Cant wait to be proven wrong :0

At least you partially agree with my shipment prediction then (XB1>WiiU end of September) then you somehow expect WiiU to outship XB1 during the holidays.

Yea, i didn't say it was impossible, just not 100% guaranteed, i mean we had no idea awhile back X1 would be this low (not saying its low, saying its not wat most people expected, especially after holidays).

As for the End of the year argument, i said that WiiU will do alot better tan most expect. 10mil imo will happen (we'll see that later if im dead wrong). As for X1 vs WiiU SOLD (Not Shipped) i think WiiU has a good chance to stay ahead by 2015.

All opinions of course, we'll get answers soon

Edit: I totally forgot we dont have X1 exact numbers. Its under 5.9mil and thats all we kno. Wat if they keep on combining them? (like sony does with vita/psp)

Fair enough. I don't think any of it is out of the realm of possibility, just find it incredibly unlikely given .. everything. IF MK blew up more than it has I would think differently, but the hardware boost has been poor, relatively.