I feel like Smash is going to push a lot more consoles than MCC, SO, or FH2. Honestly, I don't really see XBone doing much better this year outside the usual holidays spike.

The Wii U is making a strong case at being a good 2nd console next to the PS4. It has a lot of upcoming games that can only be played on the Wii U. 3rd party games on the X1 aren't that much of a selling point when they look and perform better on the PS4. The X1 has exclusives, too, but it has already lost the exclusivity of Dead Rising 3 and Ryse to PC. Considering how poorly it's selling, we might be seeing other exclusives like Quantum Break going to PC, too. This is something you'll never have to worry about from Nintendo.

Shipments now?   More goal post adjustments?  

First you try to drag the debate to country by country and now you try to shift the debate to shipments.   Just stop.

When shipments happen, sales follow. It's not even a real discussion, XB1 will not bomb to the tune of original xbox, we've shown it's more than capable of good numbers and has a huge userbase it can still appeal too. That's what seperates it and WiiU.

Sort it out Viper, I'm not changing any goalposts. I already explained the country thing, if you can't understand why I used that that's your own problem. As for shipments, all I know is shipments should surpass WiiU's by September, and then sales will follow in the holiday.

more shipped doesnt mean more sold it means losses for the quarter

You most certainly did shift the goal posts.  You were losing the debate or else you'd never have brought country by country nor shipments.

This is about global sales by the end of the year.   And instead of backing up your claim that the Xbox One will erase a 1.9 million sales deficit, you starting talking about specific countries and then shipments.   You know good and well that channel stuffing can obfuscate actual sales data and MS are known for doing so more than either of the big 3.

Wat? Your severely underestimating WiiU this holiday. If you think X1 is just going to easily surpass it, you got something else coming to you.

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And I stand by the fact XB1 will outsell WiiU in sales globally by the end of the year, easily, due to multiplats, XB1 having a target audience, and WiiU not having as much appeal, that's my stance, I stick by it, and I don't need to change the goal posts to defend it.

I am talking about the other stuff as an aside.

As far as the last one goes, there is no such thing as stuffing. There is such a thing as retailers over ordering, but MS can't force stock into the channel if retailers don't want it. Now, it's seemingly true retailers have too much stock the past 6 months, which means there isn't going to be more overshipping due to this current Q, retailers wouldn't accept more stock when they already have enough.

Regardless, like I said that's an aside, I'm not crazy enough to think XB1 will be close to outselling WiiU by end of September, it'll happen during the holiday.

I'm just using the shipping thing as my first benchmark to my prediction, don't call it changing goals.