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Viper1 said:
Seece said:

Sort it out Viper, I'm not changing any goalposts. I already explained the country thing, if you can't understand why I used that that's your own problem. As for shipments, all I know is shipments should surpass WiiU's by September, and then sales will follow in the holiday.



You most certainly did shift the goal posts.  You were losing the debate or else you've never have brought country by country nor shipments.

 

This is about global sales by the end of the year.   And instead of backing up your claim that the Xbox One will erase a 1.9 million sales defivit, you starting tarking about specific countries and then shipments.   You know good and well that channel stuffing can obfuscate actual sales data and MS are known for doing so more than either of the big 3.

And I stand by the fact XB1 will outsell WiiU in sales globally by the end of the year, easily, due to multiplats, XB1 having a target audience, and WiiU not having as much appeal, that's my stance, I stick by it, and I don't need to change the goal posts to defend it.

I am talking about the other stuff as an aside.

As far as the last one goes, there is no such thing as stuffing. There is such a thing as retailers over ordering, but MS can't force stock into the channel if retailers don't want it. Now, it's seemingly true retailers have too much stock the past 6 months, which means there isn't going to be more overshipping due to this current Q, retailers wouldn't accept more stock when they already have enough.

Regardless, like I said that's an aside, I'm not crazy enough to think XB1 will be close to outselling WiiU by end of September, it'll happen during the holiday.

I'm just using the shipping thing as my first benchmark to my prediction, don't call it changing goals.