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theprof00 said:
If I wriit as a narrative, it goes like this.
Youre feeling out the town with the active vs silent because you realize youre looking pretty isolated in your opinion, so you couldnt really push an agenda that way so you "evolved" subtly toward the silent being suspicious. Then you saw some nubs supported your idea and went back to it. You then pushed that agenda on me really hard, and yet didnt put any vote on me despite saying that i was pretty much killing town.
Then when i argue my point, youre a know it all because apparently everything i did was EXACTLY what a mafia would say (WIFOM) , and you demonstrated your hardheadedness in this accusation by refusing to look at anyone else, saying "ill think about outlaw tomorrow". Then despite yet another argument from me explaining how i play and why i do, youre so egotistical to offer me advice ive been through a hundred times already.

It all boils down to you wanting to lynch me, using manipulation to get others on my vote , like helping rct vote me, and pretty much ognoring all reason against it. You were afraid to be on my lynch because you KNOW im going to flip town, coward. e I

Yeah, I thought you were guilty, so I tried to convince others you were, is that so wrong? I thought that's what you were supposed to do in Mafia games! And I didn't "evolve subtly toward silent being suspicious", I actually listened to other people, because I'm not that hardheaded! Just because in the end no one offered anything that convinced me that silent was more suspicious doesn't make me hardheaded. I waited to put the vote on you because I wanted some other's opinions, because I'm NOT egotistical! I just disagreed! I thought you were that other one you said. Yomi, was it? Maybe I don't get the whole wifom/yomi thing. Doesn't make me stupid, just makes me new. I'm not hardheaded for commiting to something I genuinely believe in, it's just my strategy. I vote out one person I think is guilty because you actually do have a chance of being lynched, then tomorrow I get someone else I suspect less. In that same post you mention, I told him that if it were a tie at the end, I'd change my vote so that we could actually accomplish something today. And I repeat, I'm not egotistical for offering you advice. You don't have to agree with me. If you know better, fine, don't take my advice. Just because I'm new doesn't mean I don't have anything to offer. And yes, I want to lynch you, because I think you're mafia, get over it. I'm not "manipulating" anyone, I'm just trying to convince people to vote for you, because I think you're mafia! I didn't ignore all reasoning, I disagreed with it! I wasn't afraid, I was just unsure at first! Now stop insulting me!



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Gotta say im a little worried that sparks is just buddy in up to me...



theprof00 said:
@hylian
and you're being defensive. Which confirms to me that you've been called at least a couple of these things before.
which means im pn the right track.
I dont mean to say things to hurt you, but I am trying to get to the bottom of this.

Look at it this way, if indeed you ARE an egotistical hard headed person, then that means you could actually be a townies.

And I called you spineless because you know im going to flip town and you didnt want to initiate that lynch train because you knew it would point back to you and get you lynched. Brother you know I HAVE been mafia before. I know all the tricks. You make a really convincing accusation and hope other people bandwagon on to it. Its really mafia 101.


Yeah, I am being defensive, because you're attacking me personally! I don't buy that crap that you're "trying to get to the bottom of this". You're mad I voted for you. For the record, I don't recall ever being called any of these things. I'm being defensive because I know they're not true. I suppose that makes me egotistical too? I get that you've been mafia before, but I really don't see anything wrong with pursuing a single lead. Quite frankly, I don't think I have the experience to pursue as many leads as you did. Good for you. That doesn't mean I have nothing to offer.



Tomato, potato, hylian.
you can say you didnt do any of those things for the reasons I provided but you can't PROVE that you didnt. The opportunity to do exactly what I said does exist. It IS possible.
you haven't gone after a single other player. Ive question 8. Im looking at everything, and you have tunnel vision. Naturally the simple strategy is to find out as much about everyone and every post as you can because a townie knows nothing about anything. Every post is a chance to find scum.

When you do something unnatural, however, it says theres a hidden agenda. You're being unreasonable. Unreasonable people generally have an agenda. The solution ive offered FITS even if maybe its not true, its possible, likely, and classic mafia strategy to act the way you have. It doesnt PROVE you're mafia, no
But you're not going to just talk it away.

See how that works both ways?



theprof00 said:
Gotta say im a little worried that sparks is just buddy in up to me...

It's simple. I can't do what you do. I'm good at analyzing and problem solving, but bad at eliciting and provoking.



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theprof00 said:
Gotta say im a little worried that sparks is just buddy in up to me...


At the moment, I'm willing to take him at his word. Whether you flip town or scum, you've clearly been the most beneficial player in the game to date, statistically proven and everything. (And since you know I'm not exactly in the habit of buttering you up, you know I mean that.) I have a hard time following the stated arguments against you, and have mentally converted most of them into "prof's an a-hole" (again, no offense).



Tomato, potato, hylian.
you can say you didnt do any of those things for the reasons I provided but you can't PROVE that you didnt. The opportunity to do exactly what I said does exist. It IS possible.
you haven't gone after a single other player. Ive question 8. Im looking at everything, and you have tunnel vision. Naturally the simple strategy is to find out as much about everyone and every post as you can because a townie knows nothing about anything. Every post is a chance to find scum.

When you do something unnatural, however, it says theres a hidden agenda. You're being unreasonable. Unreasonable people generally have an agenda. The solution ive offered FITS even if maybe its not true, its possible, likely, and classic mafia strategy to act the way you have. It doesnt PROVE you're mafia, no
But you're not going to just talk it away.

See how that works both ways?



theprof00 said:
Tomato, potato, hylian.
you can say you didnt do any of those things for the reasons I provided but you can't PROVE that you didnt. The opportunity to do exactly what I said does exist. It IS possible.
you haven't gone after a single other player. Ive question 8. Im looking at everything, and you have tunnel vision. Naturally the simple strategy is to find out as much about everyone and every post as you can because a townie knows nothing about anything. Every post is a chance to find scum.

When you do something unnatural, however, it says theres a hidden agenda. You're being unreasonable. Unreasonable people generally have an agenda. The solution ive offered FITS even if maybe its not true, its possible, likely, and classic mafia strategy to act the way you have. It doesnt PROVE you're mafia, no
But you're not going to just talk it away.

See how that works both ways?

I do see how that works both ways. And I did go after some other players, but I can only vote for one. I went after the silent players, and early on I raised suspicion to Nickles. After I had decided on a vote, I continued to pursue leads for the next day. Hence why I talked about outlawauron as my next vote, and even said I'd vote for him if there was a tie, so as to at least accomplish something. It wouldn't be just jumping on a bandwagon in that case, because I do also genuinely suspect outlawauron. Who either forget this thread exists or is trying way too hard to hide now, so I definitely suspect him. IkePoR and RTC are next on my suspicion list, and they'd be higher, but I don't know what to make of them. No one has really pursued them that hard, and RTC and Ike have both responded a little, while outlawauron has been very silent and very dodgy when he does respond. I maintain that based on outlaw's behavior outside of this mafia thread, it fits him very well, but I also realize he's very suspicious and he's next on my list.



Let's ease off a little bit, huh prof?

(this is me as mod, not me as FEM player)



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

You raised suspicion on nickel due to MY LION OF INVESTIGATION!
Dont you see how retarded that is?
You're saying you went after ONE other person...MY SUSPECT. And then you went after me immediately. At the same time even! At the same time you said that im too aggressive, you go after also the one of two people I was questioning!
Madness. Utter madness.

HAH and OUTLAW TOO! Im the one who is pushing him in the first place! Who brought him up when everyone was looking at cone and wright.

Im not saying im right about them. Im saying all you're doing is suspecting people that IVE put myself on the line to question!!! Dont make me laugh so hard oniichan