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How is the role meant to draw attention? Just because you can take 'em with you doesn't mean you want to. Ideally you just play like you're vanilla, right?

Something like that would only be useful very late game if it was down to a point where the scum were about to score the winning kill, then you draw it down into you, but isn't living better than not living?

And hylian reported prof about 6 times during the first day for being over-aggressive. According to kantor, it's in bounds if its mafia, but that doesn't mean it's not a fun or constructive way to play the first game in forever, with a lot of newbies on the line who could stay for more rounds or just fly the hell away if we find it unpleasant.



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See khan its not that I have a problem with your "style" but mainly how you're making accusations.
thing is, if someone has never played as town before or doesn't have enough experience hunting scum, its hard to pretend to be town. Things that make sense to town would only make sense if you were town.
some of your accusations (a majority) come off as spin...using buzzwords in inappropriate ways, labelling things with terms that dont match... simply watching town play isnt enough of a guide.

Your play so far comes off as a scum who doesn't know how to play as town. You dont come off as looking for answers, no, you come off as being very calm, but jumpy toward accusations. You dont even know the role you have nor does it seem like you tried looking it up. Again yeah that could be chalked up to indifference, but so why should we leave someone who is indifferent to play? We are looking for someone to get rid of. Two people actually..and you fit. Everyone else here is playing hard. Even in just a pure fairness way, it wouldn't be fair to get rid of someone who wants to play because your excuse is you're not having fun.



This is starting to piss me off, but if you want me to do the work, i'll do the damn work. I just need a bit to go archive diving, if that's okay, Captain.



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theprof00 said:
Basically, the question is "why shouldn't we shoot you"
Although khan is definitely a better target than you I'd say.

Im content with leaving you alone for now, but I wpuld like to know what you think of this witch hunt.
k hans claim, rct, hylian etc


The answer is simple: because I see no reason to do so. I've already listed my reasoning and rationale on how we should proceed, as sparks seems intent to do today what Smeags has refrained from doing the past two days. I'd also add that lynching confirmed liars should be a higher priority, although I prefer to fight my battles one at a time.

As for the "witch hunt" (interesting word choice, by the way), my two cents are as follows: I have no idea what khan is trying to claim, which in light of how most powers so far seem to flow fairly clearly is suspicious. He's also been a flip-flopper par none. Admittedly, this is a game where we go from almost lynching RCT to almost lynching outlaw to almost lynching sparks to "lynching" outlaw again, so he's hardly alone. This day's events certainly reinforce that our group of players is much more amenable to turning with the wind than any I recall.

I've stated the case against RCT several times already. His activity strikes me as scummy, his claim clashes with what I expect from our mod (who has put far more time and energy into this game than any I can remember, so sloppiness strikes me as unlikely),  The only thing that gives me pause is that we've only had one confirmed death per night so far, but then I have to wonder: what happened to the Elixir?

hylian. Refresh my memory, but isn't the entire case against him at the moment your assertion that, and I quote, "we need to be looking at the "why nots" instead of the "why's"? Respectfully, that's the exact opposite of how I think we should play this game, so forgive me for not putting a ton of stock into that.



@noname
unfortunately we have the rare occurrence of power roles who cant do shit.
we dont really have much choice. If th ere are 4 scum, then tomorrow is the last day, and we can't afford to test claims on the last day.

@khan
Your job is to get scum to kill you at night. One to one trade is great for town. The ham is set up so that it takes three townies to bag every one mafia. If we do it with one were up two..
and im vanilla. My only ability is my vote and analysis, so I can't really say you're playing like a vanilla, because you're ignoring your own major power.
also, between bulletproof bomb doc bodyguard, its just way too unbalanced to you to be a bomb.



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noname2200 said:

I'd be happy to do exactly what we agreed we shouldn't do days ago, and have a mass roleclaim: if we're going to let ourselves be served for dinner, why not make it a buffet? Hope any cop/lie detector/bus driver/reviver/other useful power role we may have doesn't bite it as a result. But then I also hope they don't false claim, because then we've blown their credibility, and may have to lynch them unless they prove to be 100% accurate. Which will likely require letting them pick a target for the day, no questions asked...

Sorry if I'm being snarky, I'm just amazed we're going down this road at the moment. As before, I confess to skimming (so...many...posts...), so maybe I missed the part where this proved to be the best course of action. I confess I'm skeptical though, especially since I don't recall reading any strong rebuttal to the points raised earlier against any of the three people I still consider the best bets for scum. Well, two really: whiteeagle's there mostly because I believe his flip would be useful, as I previously stated.

Tell you what: I'll leave my claim up to Smeags, since I believe we can all agree that he is a confirmed townie. If he believes it's a good idea, I will put all my cards on the table in one way or another, no questions asked. I do this because I think a mass claim is a terrible idea, but I continue to respect Smeags' opinion: if he says otherwise, I'll play along.

You can be as snarky as you like. It's your lack of participation that bugs me. And why would you care enough to pay close attention to what's happening here? All you have to do is pick someone to kill at night.

Give me one good reason why I shouldn't shoot you right this minute. As if it would make a difference in thread discussion and investigation. Seems bandwagoning onto RCTJunkie is the best you got. I don't know what prof sees in you.



To be honest I don't know how effective this "Russian roulette" tactic will be. We're forcing the gun on anyone we don't "know of" until they give us an answer (of course forgetting that every scum member has a counter card that they can use without hesitation or worry about shooting themselves in the foot with)

The only way to prove one's ability is to use it, like we did with Padib, and soon to be myself (ElFire) and Sparks (ability to steal or swap items).

As for my opinion (which while "trustworthy", is not the end all/be all. So take it or leave it as you'd like), I say that we use Prof's pressure tactic for the actual lynch, and use Spark's Killing Edge on a user that has evidence stacked up against them.

To be honest, I'm really leaning on using it to kill Cone tonight. The only hint of worry comes from the fact that a counter claim hasn't been made against him (as doctors are one of the classic roles in Mafia). But the evidence pointing towards an educated guess is that for every controversy we have right now, Cone is a part of it. Whether it be the protection overload issue (RCT Bulletproof, Padib's role, and Cone's role) or the WhiteEagle contradiction issue, Cone's death could answer a lot of questions that could lead to a better lynch toDay. But it's not just that his death means answers/more information, it's the fact that so far, based on what we know, he's among a small group that look very scummy.

Just my thoughts, and like I said, it shouldn't be seen as the end all/be all opinion.



No thats mot it noname. Regarding hylian.
If you would read through his posts you'll see what im talking about.



Smeags said:
To be honest, I'm really leaning on using it to kill Cone tonight. The only hint of worry comes from the fact that a counter claim hasn't been made against him (as doctors are one of the classic roles in Mafia). But the evidence pointing towards an educated guess is that for every controversy we have right now, Cone is a part of it. Whether it be the protection overload issue (RCT Bulletproof, Padib's role, and Cone's role) or the WhiteEagle contradiction issue, Cone's death could answer a lot of questions that could lead to a better lynch toDay. But it's not just that his death means answers/more information, it's the fact that so far, based on what we know, he's among a small group that look very scummy.

Any thoughts on the multiple tracker claims? Nicklesbe, who counterclaimed tracker, and usually a heavy participant, seems to have vanished.



Also, RCTjunkie being bulletproof points to scum.