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BMaker11 on 01 August 2014
kowenicki said:

Apples and oranges

Streaming service versus hard rentals??  Hard rentals are limited in their scope...OBVIOUSLY, you cant take the whole store home/have it delivered.

Ridiculous comparison.  A streaming gaming service should follow a netflix model, not a hard copy rental model.  All you can eat for a fair fee.

There is no reason for this model other than profiteering.

Yes, Because video games are just like movies. Because running them on 10s of 1000s of PS3s is the same as cheap the Netflix servers. Because actual hardware rendering content and sending it over the internet is the same as encoded video playback sent over the internet.

The inner workings are exactly the same, so the pricing model should be the same. Makes total sense

/s



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DeadBigfoot21 on 01 August 2014
TheBlackNaruto said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
 

Isn't that what most companies do? Find ways to make money? And also it seems you are missing the point for current PS3 owners this isn't really that big of a deal because as you said you can go buy the game cheaper. But what is someone doesn't want to buy the game but still wants to play it? Wouldn't this benefit them? Or what about the people that only have a PS4 and no PS3 like I mentioned in my other post wouldn't this benefit them? It's like you are just completely ignoring those two things...

Ok and you are leaving out the people with low internet speed (below 5Mbps) streaming games is the last thing they want to do as it can cause major lag issues. I would never choose digital over physical but I would if prices were much cheaper. In this case it really isn't and on top of that its online only. You are not understanding my point of view here. If I can get the same game on PS now and in store or online (amazon) I would go for the physical copy since I don't have to be always connected. Internet is not 100% reliable so when its down then I can't play the game I played for. If there is a subscription based deal like I stated already then this would make PS now a much better deal. 

But I am not leaving them out at all. seeing as if they have that kind of interent them steaming gaming as you said would be the last thing they would want to do. It's not like Sony can go and fix their interent and give them faster speeds. So if they are unable to use streaming due to their internet them as you already stated they have other options. Like I said PS Now IS NOT for everyone including me because it is not something I would choose at this point in time. I also prefer physical media but this is a good OPTION for other people. The way you were saying things it was as if this was being forced on everyone when it isn't. And I also agree if it was subscription based it would be a much better deal without a doubt.

Never said it was being forced on people. Only concern is if someone likes how PS now sounds but don't have the required speed then it clearly doesn't help them at all. A subscription based that let's you download the game would work in such a case. Streaming < download unless you have the speed for it.



DeadBigfoot21 on 01 August 2014
kowenicki said:
BMaker11 said:
kowenicki said:

Apples and oranges

Streaming service versus hard rentals??  Hard rentals are limited in their scope...OBVIOUSLY, you cant take the whole store home/have it delivered.

Ridiculous comparison.  A streaming gaming service should follow a netflix model, not a hard copy rental model.  All you can eat for a fair fee.

There is no reason for this model other than profiteering.

Yes, Because video games are just like movies. Because running them on 10s of 1000s of PS3s is the same as cheap the Netflix servers. Because actual hardware rendering content and sending it over the internet is the same as encoded video playback sent over the internet.

The inner workings are exactly the same, so the pricing model should be the same. Makes total sense

/s

Like this you mean?

 

 

Lol owned! 

 

Anyways I thought onLive was dead?



Neodegenerate on 01 August 2014
kowenicki said:

neither of which are at odds with my original statement.

If they introduced a netflix model that would be reasonably interesting, if they introduced ps4 games (which they cant) then it would be brilliant.

The first suggestion actually runs completely counter to your statement.  Making a profit doesn't mean it immediately runs to profiteering.



BMaker11 on 01 August 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:

That's on you if you decide to go out and just get a PS3 and get the games on the cheap. PSNow isn't targeted for you then. And you're right, internet speeds don't vary based on how much money you have. I kinda assumed that if you had all the stuff, you probably have good internet. Didn't take into consideration location.

But if you're in a situation like that....you're just kinda SOL aren't you? No need to single out PSNow. You wouldn't be doing any kind of streaming, if you have crappy internet. From Sept 2012 - July 2013, I was in an apartment (in a major city mind you) but for some real AT&T U-Verse was "not a serviceable area"...even though my buddy who lived in the same neighborhood just a on the other side of the neighborhood had it. All we could get was "AT&T High Speed DSL" topping out at 768Kbps (yea...you read that right). I didn't curse Hulu and Netflix and worry about whether the service was good, and how it affected people in my situation. And I definitely didn't keep paying for it. I just cancelled Hulu until I moved to a place where I could get better internet. PSNow is the same way.



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gergroy on 01 August 2014
Neodegenerate said:
gergroy said:

Well, If I were Sony, I would have figured it out before bringing it to the market.  All they are doing is turning people off from the service as it is.  It would have been better for them to hold off and get all their ducks in a row before prematurely launching to a negative reaction like it is getting now.  Much like the x1 reveal...

They haven't launched.  It is in BETA

beta or not, it has been brought to the market.  



Neodegenerate on 01 August 2014
gergroy said:

beta or not, it has been brought to the market.  

The target audience for PSNow is not the hardcore market.  They are simply using us to determine the pricing structure through their beta programs before they roll it out to the target: casual gamers and people who don't currently own consoles.  Those people aren't experiencing any of these woes as they don't actually go to gaming websites or care about what happened in beta.  They will care when they see the advertising and the actual pricing.  Any damage this is causing is going to be minimal at best in regards to their target audience.



TheGoldenBoy on 01 August 2014

A subscription model would obviously be ideal, but they are in beta right now so they have time to fix the problems.



MentalDancing on 01 August 2014
kowenicki said:
BMaker11 said:
kowenicki said:

Apples and oranges

Streaming service versus hard rentals??  Hard rentals are limited in their scope...OBVIOUSLY, you cant take the whole store home/have it delivered.

Ridiculous comparison.  A streaming gaming service should follow a netflix model, not a hard copy rental model.  All you can eat for a fair fee.

There is no reason for this model other than profiteering.

Yes, Because video games are just like movies. Because running them on 10s of 1000s of PS3s is the same as cheap the Netflix servers. Because actual hardware rendering content and sending it over the internet is the same as encoded video playback sent over the internet.

The inner workings are exactly the same, so the pricing model should be the same. Makes total sense

/s

Like this you mean?

 

 

You're only helping his argument onlive was a massive failure at that price. Hilarious the little anti-sony crusade you are though, yet you had no issue with MS tramping on consumer rights with x1.

 

I guess redbox and others with similar pries are bad to right?

 

lol xbox fans grasping at straws as they have not had much to bash sony with this gen. How them WW sales looking?



MentalDancing on 01 August 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:
 

Lol owned! 

 

Anyways I thought onLive was dead?

LOL owned what are you 5? How is it owned when on-live was a failure at that price?