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Conina on 27 July 2014
BlackyCat said:
okr said:
It's interesting how people always forget about games when it comes to this kind of discussion.

You can't play Civilization IV or V, Anno 1404 or 1701 or 2070, Total War: Shogun or Rome 2, Divinity: Original Sin, King's Bounty, Might & Magic, Age of Wonders 3, League of Legends, Deponia 1-3, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars: TOR, TLotR Online, DOTA 2 and many others on console.

I personally find console exclusives much more intersting than pc exclusive.. and games are the only reason why i buy a console. You can't play fire emblem awakening or demon's souls on your pc. You miss a lot of great game if you only play on pc.

You also can't play a Fire Emblem game on a PlayStation or Xbox, Demon's Souls on an Xbox or a Nintendo system and Halo on a Playstation or Nintendo system. If you want all the great games, you need every system... PC included. ;)



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jonathanalis on 27 July 2014

the real advantage are the exclusives.



archer9234 on 27 July 2014
Conina said:
archer9234 said:

PC's are still not fully easy. They still have problems playing *all* games. For me to play one old game from 1996 (A-10 Cuba) I have to run Windows 95 in Vmware. The sounds or the graphics won't function in W7. Need For Speed Porsche Unleashed and Star Trek Armada still won't work on W7 and my nVida card period. nVida screwed soemthing up with Direct X 6/7 at some point, in their drivers. Fans usually are the ones who fixed compadibitly in old games. But not all games have a fan base that do it. A-10 Cuba is Dx2. The game won't evne install because the isntaller is 16-bit. And windows removed support for that. So you gotta go threw a whole mess to bypass that.

Which for a console, no matter how old. It just works. People can't hang into their old PC's.

So which playstation model can play *all* the playstation games? Every PS game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Nintendo console can play *all* the Nintendo games? Every Nintendo game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Xbox console can play *all* the Xbox games? Every Xbox game of the 2000's and 2010's?

If you want to have access to *all* games, you need several consoles. The backwards compatibility of PCs is much better than the backwards compatibility of consoles or handhelds... not every old PC game works on a new PC, but most of them. And for the problematic games you could keep an old PC with Windows 98 available... just like the old consoles.

But it's easier to keep your old consoles still, than to deal with a PC. You just need: Model 1 PS3, PS4, An SNES with 3rd party NES game adapter, n64, Wii model 1, Wii U. Sony 2, Nintendo 4. And if you factor in VC stuff. 2 Nintendo consoles.



BlackyCat on 27 July 2014
Conina said:
BlackyCat said:
okr said:
It's interesting how people always forget about games when it comes to this kind of discussion.

You can't play Civilization IV or V, Anno 1404 or 1701 or 2070, Total War: Shogun or Rome 2, Divinity: Original Sin, King's Bounty, Might & Magic, Age of Wonders 3, League of Legends, Deponia 1-3, Guild Wars 2, Star Wars: TOR, TLotR Online, DOTA 2 and many others on console.

I personally find console exclusives much more intersting than pc exclusive.. and games are the only reason why i buy a console. You can't play fire emblem awakening or demon's souls on your pc. You miss a lot of great game if you only play on pc.

You also can't play a Fire Emblem game on a PlayStation or Xbox, Demon's Souls on an Xbox or a Nintendo system and Halo on a Playstation or Nintendo system. If you want all the great games, you need every system... PC included. ;)

I can't find real interesting exclusives on pc.. The only reason i have a pc is to play multiplatform games.

And i won't say every system.. de xbox360 didn't have much.. and de xbone don't either. ( At least no exclusives which may interest me )



deskpro2k3 on 27 July 2014

The only games I play on PC are MMOs, and even MMOs are coming to consoles.



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Conina on 27 July 2014
archer9234 said:
Conina said:

So which playstation model can play *all* the playstation games? Every PS game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Nintendo console can play *all* the Nintendo games? Every Nintendo game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Xbox console can play *all* the Xbox games? Every Xbox game of the 2000's and 2010's?

If you want to have access to *all* games, you need several consoles. The backwards compatibility of PCs is much better than the backwards compatibility of consoles or handhelds... not every old PC game works on a new PC, but most of them. And for the problematic games you could keep an old PC with Windows 98 available... just like the old consoles.

But it's easier to keep your old consoles still, than to deal with a PC. You just need: Model 1 PS3, PS4, An SNES with 3rd party NES game adapter, n64, Wii model 1, Wii U. Sony 2, Nintendo 4. And if you factor in VC stuff. 2 Nintendo consoles.

Not every PS2 game was PS3 compatible, even to the launch-model. Ratchet & Clank 2 didn't ran on my PS3, Ratchet & Clank 3 had massive slowdowns, Jack Bauer and his enemies were invisible in "24 - The Game"... so we are already at 3 PlayStations, if you want to play *all* games... plus 4 Nintendo consoles, plus 3 Xboxes. Yeah, it's much easier to keep 10 consoles than 2 PCs. ;)

And if we factor in VC stuff (where only a fraction of the classics is available), we can also factor in PC emulators, ScummVM, DosBox and VMs.



Leadified on 27 July 2014
Maraccuda said:
I will always enjoy consoles more for its simplicity.

Also, so many things can go wrong with a pc, while much less can go wrong with a console.


1 or 2 generations ago, I would've agreed with you but right now that does not seem to be the case anymore since they're pretty much mini-PCs now. Consoles are cheaper as a whole, they're more mobile and they have overall better security (of course console exculsives are an obvious advantage as well).



Mr_No on 27 July 2014

After venturing on PC gaming for a week, I deeply regret trying it on. It's been frustration after another. Case in point: Warframe. I'm playing in a laptop that has all the requirements except the graphic card. It seems I need an Nvidia card instead of the paltry Intel HD Graphics one, which I can't remove from a laptop. It's hard enough playing with a touchpad, so I use a Dell USB mouse I found around the house. First thing I notice is the input lag. I can still play with it, but the camera suddenly goes upwards and spins around. This issue has frustrated me in every way possible. I tried changing every options, putting the graphic options on low to no avail.

This is why I just prefer a console. You just need your trusty controller instead of going out there and buying the best and most expensive gamepad or mouse. And I prefer its simplicity. It's a real plug-and-play. Sure, it has nice graphics, but that doesn't mean anything to an Average Joe like me if it can't play properly.



Leadified on 27 July 2014
Mr_No said:
After venturing on PC gaming for a week, I deeply regret trying it on. It's been frustration after another. Case in point: Warframe. I'm playing in a laptop that has all the requirements except the graphic card. It seems I need an Nvidia card instead of the paltry Intel HD Graphics one, which I can't remove from a laptop. It's hard enough playing with a touchpad, so I use a Dell USB mouse I found around the house. First thing I notice is the input lag. I can still play with it, but the camera suddenly goes upwards and spins around. This issue has frustrated me in every way possible. I tried changing every options, putting the graphic options on low to no avail.

This is why I just prefer a console. You just need your trusty controller instead of going out there and buying the best and most expensive gamepad or mouse. And I prefer its simplicity. It's a real plug-and-play. Sure, it has nice graphics, but that doesn't mean anything to an Average Joe like me if it can't play properly.


There's no argument that on a console, unless the game is really shitty, you have a guarentee that everything will work smoothly. However I do think your experience was more bad luck, probably both on the hardware side of things and software, then a representation on how gaming on a PC is like. The only time I've personally had an input problem on a PC is when I was using a mouse I bought from the dollar store, I got what I paid for.

Also if PC is the only way to absolutely play Warframe and if you haven't tried already it won't hurt to try to plug in a DS3 or 4 and see if it works, from my experience it's fairly responsive.



archer9234 on 27 July 2014
Conina said:
archer9234 said:
Conina said:

So which playstation model can play *all* the playstation games? Every PS game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Nintendo console can play *all* the Nintendo games? Every Nintendo game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Xbox console can play *all* the Xbox games? Every Xbox game of the 2000's and 2010's?

If you want to have access to *all* games, you need several consoles. The backwards compatibility of PCs is much better than the backwards compatibility of consoles or handhelds... not every old PC game works on a new PC, but most of them. And for the problematic games you could keep an old PC with Windows 98 available... just like the old consoles.

But it's easier to keep your old consoles still, than to deal with a PC. You just need: Model 1 PS3, PS4, An SNES with 3rd party NES game adapter, n64, Wii model 1, Wii U. Sony 2, Nintendo 4. And if you factor in VC stuff. 2 Nintendo consoles.

Not every PS2 game was PS3 compatible, even to the launch-model. Ratchet & Clank 2 didn't ran on my PS3, Ratchet & Clank 3 had massive slowdowns, Jack Bauer and his enemies were invisible in "24 - The Game"... so we are already at 3 PlayStations, if you want to play *all* games... plus 4 Nintendo consoles, plus 3 Xboxes. Yeah, it's much easier to keep 10 consoles than 2 PCs. ;)

And if we factor in VC stuff (where only a fraction of the classics is available), we can also factor in PC emulators, ScummVM, DosBox and VMs.

Sure is easier to keep my consoles. I store them in 2 boxes. My argument is PC will always be complicated to the majority. They don't want to deal with any form of nonsense. They just want things to work. VC on consoles does just work. Emulation on PC doesn't always work right. I can't play Armada and Porche even in Vmware. They just crash. And to get to emulation PC, you need to actually have a lot of things. You ignoring the fact you need to either have kept your OS installtion disc. Or get a ISO. Then install it.

You may also need to tweak the virtual BIOS settings etc. Getting windows 95 to work fully was a nightmare in VMware. So many drivers are not setup automatically. And Dosbox, you gotta know how MS-DOS commands work. Try telling someone you have to mount a second hard drive to spoof the cdrom drive, in order to get certain games to install and play right. Setup the old annoying Soundblaster audio. To configure the emulators resolution you have to edit a config file. Making desktop shortcuts require you to add in a string to the Dos box shortcut. This is extra junk no one wants to do. Granted, some sites have DOSbox setup to run the game. But almost all the time, dosbox itself isn't configured correct. I have wrong audio ports. Because another game is setup different. I do all this because It's fun to fix older games, to me. Not a person who just wants to load up a game and that's it.